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    Re: What was the 2009 election lesson

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    I think Roger Simon of Pajamas Media is saying lose the religious right, and the lesson is Republicans will win.
    Well, the religious right has to vote for someone, so I don't see why the Republicans should be actively discouraging them to vote for their party unless they want to shoot themselves in the foot.

    Plus, McDonnell was basically a member of the "religious right" (whatever that even means) and won by 17% in a state that Obama carried, so...yeah.

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    Re: What was the 2009 election lesson

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Well, the religious right has to vote for someone, so I don't see why the Republicans should be actively discouraging them to vote for their party unless they want to shoot themselves in the foot.

    Plus, McDonnell was basically a member of the "religious right" (whatever that even means) and won by 17% in a state that Obama carried, so...yeah.

    Yes, McDonnell is a social conservative, but he did not campaign on those issues, in fact, he sought to downplay them and run on Bob's for Jobs, or something like that.

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    Re: What was the 2009 election lesson

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    I think Roger Simon of Pajamas Media is saying lose the religious right, and the lesson is Republicans will win.
    That article hits the point right on the nose for me. I believe a social live-and-let-live policy from Republicans will pull in a ton of independent and Democratic votes. The biggest complaint young people have with the Republican party right now is it's stance against gay marriage and abortion.
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    Re: What was the 2009 election lesson

    Quote Originally Posted by RightOfCenter View Post
    That article hits the point right on the nose for me. I believe a social live-and-let-live policy from Republicans will pull in a ton of independent and Democratic votes. The biggest complaint young people have with the Republican party right now is it's stance against gay marriage and abortion.
    Yeah, but until young people prove themselves as a vital demographic that will consistently vote, what real ambition does a party really have for capturing that audience?
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    Re: What was the 2009 election lesson

    What I really think is this:

    We had a few elections in a few states and they really mean nothing for the overall parties, either in favor or against dems or republicans. It's far too small of a group of people to have such an overwhelming impact. That said, I will take two house seats and give the Republicans 2 governorships any day of the week.
    It's time for a revolution in our country. Not a revolution forged with guns and bombs but a revolution forged of compassion and altruism. A revolution that extends a hand to those who don't have and who cannot. A revolution that makes Health Care available to all those in the US.

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    Re: What was the 2009 election lesson

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Yeah, but until young people prove themselves as a vital demographic that will consistently vote, what real ambition does a party really have for capturing that audience?
    Getting them registered. People that consider themselves Dems/Repubs at 18 or 19 will most likely consider themselves the same thing at 30 when they actually think it's important to vote.

    Also, where are you in ND? I used to live in Fargo.
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    Re: What was the 2009 election lesson

    Quote Originally Posted by RightOfCenter View Post
    Getting them registered. People that consider themselves Dems/Repubs at 18 or 19 will most likely consider themselves the same thing at 30 when they actually think it's important to vote.

    Also, where are you in ND? I used to live in Fargo.
    Yes, but that social demographic does not pull itself out in large enough numbers to justify changing a giant portion of the platform. Those social issues are huge draws to the large portion of the voting Republicans.

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    Re: What was the 2009 election lesson

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Yes, but that social demographic does not pull itself out in large enough numbers to justify changing a giant portion of the platform. Those social issues are huge draws to the large portion of the voting Republicans.
    It's the changing views of society. Right now it doesn't seem worth it, but as new and younger conservatives join the party and run for office they will see the way the wind is blowing and make the changes necessary to get elected. I don't see social conservatives having very much power at all within the party during the, lets say, 2020 elections.

    I go to school in Grand Forks, but lived in Bismarck for most of my life.
    Nice. I have a lot of friends up there.
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    Re: What was the 2009 election lesson

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    Yes, McDonnell is a social conservative, but he did not campaign on those issues, in fact, he sought to downplay them and run on Bob's for Jobs, or something like that.
    Maybe so, but that still means that the Republicans can win without having to "lose" the "religious right", but rather, just focus less on religious/social issues (and depending on the state, they might not even have to do that). They can do this while still maintaining religious social conservative voters and candidates.

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    Re: What was the 2009 election lesson

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Maybe so, but that still means that the Republicans can win without having to "lose" the "religious right", but rather, just focus less on religious/social issues (and depending on the state, they might not even have to do that). They can do this while still maintaining religious social conservative voters and candidates.
    Maybe. I don't think so, but ... maybe.

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