Living document, etc.
It's all in how you word stuff around here. lol.
We've shown you that the laws of thermodynamics have application and are testable, let's see you give that a try for your view of rights. What you're basically doing is saying "Aha! I think there are magical rights-giving pixies and if you can't solve Pi to the last digit, I must be right!" Like it or not, the laws of thermodynamics and rights have absolutely nothing to do with each other. You have the responsibility to back up your claims. Even if we could not in any way, shape or form defend the laws of thermodynamics, that doesn't alter your responsibility to support your claims on rights.Originally Posted by Ikari
Get to work or admit failure.
No, I'm using the only manner we can actually use to defend and give evidence for them. If you want to define them another way, demonstrate that your way has any actual realistic application. You don't get to just define things into existence on your say so. Put up or shut up.You're defining "rights" through utility.
And when can we expect you to stop?Then, even if you still don't agree, you can maybe be less of an ass about it.
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All you really did is say that I'm wrong, demand proof, but don't hold yourself to your own standards.
You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo
Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
I want some kind of logical justification for your claims and evidence and well-reasoned arguments that demonstrate that they are at all likely to be true. That's not so much to ask for.Originally Posted by Ikari
All you've been doing is running around waving your arms screaming "I'm right I'm right I'm right I'm right I'm right I'm right!" When people ask you to prove it, you keep running in circles screaming "I'm right I'm right I'm right I'm right!" That doesn't demonstrate your case, it just proves you don't have one.
That's because you've never demonstrated one whit that your ideals are valid. Just because you make some crap up and spout it doesn't mean it deserves respect. You have not once justified your ideals and when people have directly asked you to defend them, you've ignored them. If anything, you've proven that your ideals are not worthy of respect.You from the start have acted condescending and rude towards my ideals.
You want to believe stupid, unsupported, nonsensical crap, go ahead. I'll just be sure to point it out as what it is: stupid, unsupported, nonsensical crap. You can change that by actually SUPPORTING YOUR CLAIMS!
That's what rational people do.