View Poll Results: Should parents use GPS tracking to monitor their children?

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  • Yes! An implanted chip would be even safer!

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  • Yes, I think this is a practical way to keep track of kids

    11 18.64%
  • It would be warranted in some cases

    15 25.42%
  • I'm not comfortable with this idea, I don't think so

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  • Brave New World here we come. They've gotta start them young.

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    Re: Should parents use a GPS tracking device to monitor their children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elena View Post
    The only alternative to that would be a bullet in a head for all convicted pedophiles.
    I think maybe that's a stretch. We've flown off the handle with this crap enough already. With automatic sentencing, lists, etc. It's sickening how much of a police state we're allowing things to become so that someone could please think of the children. I hate making sweeping policy, increasing the size and scope of government off of low probability events. There should never be automatic sentencing, the sex offender list should probably on whole be done away with but if not well more restrictions about who gets on it, and it shouldn't be impossible for convicted sex offenders to find a place to live after their release. Some place other than the underneath of an overpass.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elena View Post
    Long ago (really long ago ) when I was working for our local police we received a call: some pervert molested and attempted to rape two girls, they managed to escape and raised the alarm; the father with the neighbours caught the guy.

    The unit that was supposed to arrest him was given unofficial advice to take their time... When they arrived on a scene, the pervert was SOOOOO HAPPY to be arrested!..
    There's no justice like angry mob justice eh? Nice, real nice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elena View Post
    And you know what? Instances of child molestation, and especially abduction were VERY, VERY rare!
    Exactly. Which is why people should use their brains and not their emotions when trying to conceive of policy in these matters.
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    Re: Should parents use a GPS tracking device to monitor their children?

    IMO, this issue highlights a fairly straightforward schism between the authoritarian and the libertarian.

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    Re: Should parents use a GPS tracking device to monitor their children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    Hmmm, no, I can't really get behind shooting people regardless of their criminal history...I feel like I'm explaining America to Borat.
    If someone was caught sexually abusing a child, YOUR child would you be as liberal-thinking and politically correct as you appear to be now?

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    Re: Should parents use a GPS tracking device to monitor their children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elena View Post
    Firearms are illegal in Britain as is sense of humour in Colorado.
    That's it then, you're done? No more to offer to the debate? Noted.
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    Re: Should parents use a GPS tracking device to monitor their children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elena View Post
    If someone was caught sexually abusing a child, YOUR child would you be as liberal-thinking and politically correct as you appear to be now?
    You didn't refer to sexual abuse of children. You referred to pedophilia, which does not necessarily entail sexual abuse of children, as many pedophiles have committed no actual criminal offenses, and many CSA'ers are situational offenders that do not meet the diagnostic criteria for pedophilia.

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    Re: Should parents use a GPS tracking device to monitor their children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post

    There's no justice like angry mob justice eh? Nice, real nice.
    Yes! Pedophiles should be getting all that they deserve. That might stop some from pursuing their hobby.

    As it is now, the liberal, politically correct society is so concerned with protecting "human" rights of pedophiles, that the only people left unprotected and betrayed are the most vulnerable -- the children! OUR children.

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    Re: Should parents use a GPS tracking device to monitor their children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    Uh...the conclusion was that Carmen Dixon violated the privacy rights of her daughter Lacey by eavesdropping on her private phone conversation. But even if it was the case that minors had no legal right to privacy (which it isn't), that wouldn't be a basis for determining that they lack an ethical right to privacy and to assert otherwise would constitute an is/ought fallacy, just as the statement that "juveniles don't have the same rights in our society as adults do, so it isn't an invasion of their rights" is. From "juveniles don't have the same rights in our society as adults do" (descriptive), it is inferred that "it isn't an invasion of their rights" (prescriptive).
    Perhaps I read the wrong case. Could you link it for me?

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    Certainly, and with one to two hundred kidnapped every year in a nation of many millions under the age of 18, your reference is to an extreme statistical improbability.
    One or two hundred? Try around 58,200 non-family kidnappings per year. While that may be insignificant compared to 300+ million people living in the US it is still no small number. And I don't know about you but if even one kid gets kidnapped and is later found dead that is one too many. No matter the statistical probability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    I doubt that. Attachment of a tracking device to someone for no sound reason is indicative of a perception of near-absolute physical sovereignty over that person's body, as would be recognized in the case of a jealous husband or lover.
    I wouldn't doubt it. It shows to me that the parent is far more likely to be concerned with their kids health and welfare than they are about wanting to hurt them. A person that wants to hurt their kid wouldn't spend that kind of money on them.

    As for the jealous husband bit that is an extreme example. Same with the lover.
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    Re: Should parents use a GPS tracking device to monitor their children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elena View Post
    Yes! Pedophiles should be getting all that they deserve. That might stop some from pursuing their hobby.

    As it is now, the liberal, politically correct society is so concerned with protecting "human" rights of pedophiles, that the only people left unprotected and betrayed are the most vulnerable -- the children! OUR children.
    Thanks for that emotional outburst Mrs. Lovejoy.

    Last I checked, we threw rapists and the likes in jail. That's what a civilized society does. People may rightfully be pissed off, but we can't devolve into anarchic vigilantism. Nothing is served by doing that. Logic, not emotion must reign supreme here. Losing your cooling and jumping off the deep end will behoove no one.
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    Re: Should parents use a GPS tracking device to monitor their children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    There's no such thing as a "convicted pedophile," because pedophilia is a paraphilia and mental illness rather than a legal offense.
    Tell that to the ones that are convicted.
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    Re: Should parents use a GPS tracking device to monitor their children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    Hmmm, no, I can't really get behind shooting people regardless of their criminal history...I feel like I'm explaining America to Borat.
    I'm an American and I would happily pull the trigger towards any pedophile.
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