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  • It would be warranted in some cases

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    Re: Should parents use a GPS tracking device to monitor their children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    If your kids are doing things like that, then perhaps you need to do a better job of raising them instead of expecting a machine to do it for you.
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    Re: Should parents use a GPS tracking device to monitor their children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The thing I'd be worried about is acclimation. Basically, if we aggregate the use of this device to too large a level you have kids running around whom have always been monitored. Their parents tracked them when they were kids, the authority is presumed right and with rightful power to watch your every move to "protect" you and to ensure you're behaving as to their rules. If the government wants to do it, why not? What's really the difference between parents and the government, the government is merely a higher form of authority. If it was ok for your parents to track you, you've been monitored all your life; why would you really object to the government doing it?

    While it takes some time to get from A to B, I would worry about the real world affects of teaching kids that they should expect to be monitored at all times by the authority.
    I agree here, somewhat, but can't the same argument be made about parents providing food, clothing, shelter, etc.?
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    Re: Should parents use a GPS tracking device to monitor their children?

    Should they?
    That depends on the parent and the kid.

    Should they be able to?
    Absofrigginlutely.

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    Re: Should parents use a GPS tracking device to monitor their children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    I agree here, somewhat, but can't the same argument be made about parents providing food, clothing, shelter, etc.?
    I mean, most of those things are definitely taught that eventually they have to figure out how to get it themselves. I could agree in principle if it's taught as an acceptance thing. Go to this place, hit this button, get food. Don't question where it came from or anything, just take it as a given. Sure.

    In the end, I wouldn't stop parents from doing this. But I would strongly warn against it. Or at least done with some amount of teaching that eventually the kids will be responsible for themselves and that mommy and daddy can't track them anymore. Eventually they have to learn to defend for themselves.
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    Re: Should parents use a GPS tracking device to monitor their children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Random kidnappings (by someone other than the family) and school shootings ARE a trivial danger. There is a huge gulf between the things that people SHOULD worry about and the things they ACTUALLY worry about...and it's entirely due to the media hyping grotesque but rare events.

    If you want to protect your kid, you're much better off never letting them go swimming than you are in trying to keep them safe from random kidnappings or school shootings. That's a much more likely source of danger. But drowning isn't as sexy as kidnapping or school shootings, so it doesn't get as much air time on the 7:00 news.
    Have you ever heard of the term "Multi-Tasking"? IE can you not protect them against both? Do you not have a right to do everything possible to protect them from everything possible..no matter how remote?

    BTW when you do have kids, if you don't already, then I'm quite sure you'll feel the same when your kids are kidnapped. Won't you?

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    Re: Should parents use a GPS tracking device to monitor their children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Have you ever heard of the term "Multi-Tasking"? IE can you not protect them against both?
    OK, let's say you prevent them from ever going swimming. Are kidnapping and/or school shootings next on the agenda? Well...no. How about preventing them from ever riding in a car? Or how about ever being in a tall building? Or how about learning the Heimlich Manuever?

    The point is that there are literally thousands of tragedies more likely (but not as sexy) as your kid being kidnapped or killed in a shooting spree. And everyone just ignores them. I'm not talking about the dangers that parents try their best, but fail, to prevent...I'm talking about the dangers that people just flat-out ignore.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang
    Do you not have a right to do everything possible to protect them from everything possible..no matter how remote?
    I guess you have the "right" (whatever that means), but it's still stupid.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang
    BTW when you do have kids, if you don't already, then I'm quite sure you'll feel the same when your kids are kidnapped. Won't you?

    It doesn't happen often enough to worry about.
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    Re: Should parents use a GPS tracking device to monitor their children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I guess you have the "right" (whatever that means), but it's still stupid.

    Why is it stupid to do everything you can to protect your child from harm?
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    Re: Should parents use a GPS tracking device to monitor their children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Why is it stupid to do everything you can to protect your child from harm?
    Because you undoubtedly don't protect your child from everything. And chances are very good that you're ignoring a much larger danger than kidnapping or random school shootings.

    Not only is it unhealthy to stress over incredibly unlikely dangers that are hyped by the media, but it distracts from preventing ACTUAL dangers. For example, here are the most common accidental deaths in the United States:

    1. Car crashes (43,200 per year)
    2. Falls (14,900)
    3. Poisoning by solids or liquids (8,600)
    4. Drowning (4,000)
    5. Burns and fires (3,700)
    6. Suffocation (3,300)
    7. Firearm accidents (1,500)
    8. Gas poisoning (700)
    9. Surgical and medical complications (500)
    10. Machinery (350)

    But those things are so much less sexy than school shootings and kidnappings! So they don't get nearly as much airtime on television. By comparison, the number of children who are kidnapped (including those who AREN'T killed) by strangers each year is about 115. And as for random school shootings? Over the last ten years, the annual number of victims in the US has ranged from a low of ZERO to a high of 32, with an average of 5.
    Last edited by Kandahar; 11-05-09 at 06:10 PM.
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    Re: Should parents use a GPS tracking device to monitor their children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Because you undoubtedly don't protect your child from everything. And chances are very good that you're ignoring a much larger danger than kidnapping or random school shootings.

    Not only is it unhealthy to stress over incredibly unlikely dangers that are hyped by the media, but it distracts from preventing ACTUAL dangers. For example, here are the most common accidental deaths in the United States:

    1. Car crashes (43,200 per year)
    2. Falls (14,900)
    3. Poisoning by solids or liquids (8,600)
    4. Drowning (4,000)
    5. Burns and fires (3,700)
    6. Suffocation (3,300)
    7. Firearm accidents (1,500)
    8. Gas poisoning (700)
    9. Surgical and medical complications (500)
    10. Machinery (350)

    By comparison, the number of children who are kidnapped (including those who aren't killed) by strangers each year is about 115. And as for random school shootings? Over the last ten years, the annual number of victims in the US has ranged from a low of ZERO to a high of 32, with an average of 5.
    You are assuming that people will only focus on one or two types of dangers. Again I ask. What is wrong with people trying to protect their child from ALL types of dangers...including those that you listed?

    And here's another point. By getting a GPS tracker for their kid don't you think that it might free up their time (no matter how small that time might be) to worry about other things? Like the ones that you have listed?
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    Re: Should parents use a GPS tracking device to monitor their children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    You are assuming that people will only focus on one or two types of dangers. Again I ask. What is wrong with people trying to protect their child from ALL types of dangers...including those that you listed?
    Because you CAN'T protect your child from all types of dangers, even if you wanted to. Besides, you probably DON'T want to. Are you really going to ban your children from ever riding in automobiles, swimming, being in tall buildings, and being near firearms...and insist on getting every meal they eat analyzed by a lab? Even if you went to this ridiculous extreme, there would STILL be lots of things far more dangerous than kidnapping by strangers or school shootings!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang
    And here's another point. By getting a GPS tracker for their kid don't you think that it might free up their time (no matter how small that time might be) to worry about other things? Like the ones that you have listed?
    No. The fact that you got the GPS tracker means that you'll continue to worry about these things, and other things the media tells you to worry about, instead of REAL dangers.
    Last edited by Kandahar; 11-05-09 at 06:17 PM.
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