Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:
These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.
I don't think it's jingoistic to express that my country is simply better than many others.
liblady, I think you may have missed my question in post #33.
I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK
But the fact that we have universal suffrage or something like that can't alter the reality that .S. ruling administrations have traditionally been and continue to be among the foremost of political regimes directly or indirectly responsible for anti-democratic coups and support of dictatorial political conditions throughout the world. This pattern has been particularly stark in Latin America, with the CIA-backed removals of democratically elected leftists Jacobo Arbenz in Guatemala and Salvador Allende in Chile (who was to be replaced by the brutal military dictator Augusto Pinochet), and support of the Contras and the Somoza family of Nicaragua, Manuel Noriega of Panama, Rafael Trujillo of the Dominican Republic, the Duvalier father and son pair of Haiti, Fulgencio Batista of Cuba, etc.
Moreover, there are countries that are objectively better than the U.S. in terms of HDI categories, and even in terms of the average freedoms that their citizens possess. Being born in the U.S. doesn't restrict me from saying that.