Dar al Islam is used by Non Muslims as something negative who have no knowledge of the Qu'ran and I would bet have not even read it.
It is not even described in detail in our most fundemental writings. The Qu'ran or Hadiths.
It was made up and defined by some Muslim scholars.
But lets talk about dar al Islam according to the scholars views.
It is described by Imam Hanifas as a place where Muslims are safe. If it is not safe for Muslims it is called 'Dar al Harb' and for it to be called Dar al Islam. Muslims must be able to practice their religion freely in a Non Muslim country. The West being a perfect example. It has freedom of religion and therefore it is labelled as friendly to Muslims and Jihad is NOT permitted or sanctioned.
However if Muslims were oppressed by the West and prevented from practicing their faith. It would be called Dar al harb and yes, Jihad is 100% permittable under Islam and rightly so.
Last edited by Laila; 10-29-09 at 04:09 PM.
I have defended my view and beliefs for almost 2 years. Don't worry, you won't cause me to commit suicide by asking some misguided and incorrect questions.
Wow. I wish I could ensure all those who try to attack Islam actually read the Qu'ran and hadiths. If someone has not read the Qu'ran and then proceed to attack it. They automatically are labelled as not worthy of such time. But i'll give you the benefit of doubt this time.
Last edited by Laila; 10-29-09 at 04:19 PM.
Please refer to the highlighted portion of your post appearing above. You say the Quran was made up by some Muslim scholars. I am aghast that you would make such a profound error. I say this because it is well established that all true believers accept the fact that the Quran is the literal word of Allah given to the Prophet Mohammed, Peace Be Upon Him.
You my dear are a very clever apostate. Apostates can not be faithful Muslims. Let me give you an analogy. Your denial that the Quran is the literal word handed down by Allah is equivalent to a Roman Catholic denying that the Eucharist is the Body of Christ. Such a denial would preclude the Church from recognizing the denier as a member of the Catholic Community.
If you are an apostate then you have no standing to lecture us about Islam.
Btw, I made it my business to read the Holy Quran eight years ago.
There's a long long history of conflict between Muslim nations and other (especially Christian nations). A lot of it peaked when there were both very strong Islamic and Christian theocracies. It's really hard then to disentangle everything. But just because there were these conflicts in the past doesn't mean that these conflicts could have been lessened if the West had not pursued such aggressive interventionist policies in the ME.
You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo
Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
Study the history books.
Read the newspapers.
Study the Koran.
The Koran does not discourage extremism.. I have tried to read it...Its so filled with hatred and intolerance of anyone non-Islamic, primarily the Jewish people....that I gave up.....And much the same applies to the Bible. This leads to terroristic acts against us and anyone who supports the Israelis....
If we were to withdraw into our shell, maybe the Islamics would not bother us...In real life, it does not work like this....
We must allow the Islamics to drown in their hatred.