View Poll Results: Is "Islamic Terrorism" Dependent on or Independent of U.S. Foreign Policy?

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  • Dependent. Such terrorism would likely not exist if U.S. foreign policy were different.

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  • Independent. Islamic terrorism would exist at current levels regardless.

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    Re: "Islamic Terrorism" - Dependent or Independent?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
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    Re: "Islamic Terrorism" - Dependent or Independent?

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    Thats not the point. We,re talking about eliciting a posstive responce from sections of the population not having a possitive influence. Noboddy has mentioned a possitive influence here. Words do mean things but you seam unable to comprehend them. He said they were popular with some sections of the population, not good.
    lol at the time Pol Pot was systematically slaughtering the Cambodian peasantry, a claim which Chomsky also denied at the time because he supported the Khmer Rouge and offered them his apologetics. He's a sick **** genocide denier.

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    Re: "Islamic Terrorism" - Dependent or Independent?

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    lol at the time Pol Pot was systematically slaughtering the Cambodian peasantry, a claim which Chomsky also denied at the time because he supported the Khmer Rouge and offered them his apologetics. He's a sick **** genocide denier.
    Noboddys dennied Pol Pot systematically slaughtered people. Again you miss the point. I expect deliberatly.

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    Re: "Islamic Terrorism" - Dependent or Independent?

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    Noboddys dennied Pol Pot systematically slaughtered people.
    Chomsky did.

    Again you miss the point. I expect deliberatly.
    No you missed the point, Chomsky 1) asserted that at most that the Khmer Rouge killed 1,000 people, 2) actually credits the Khmer Rouge with saving lives, and 3) said that he elicited a positive response from the very peasantry which he was systematically slaughtering.

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    Re: "Islamic Terrorism" - Dependent or Independent?

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    If we put American ingenuity and know how to work, we could end up telling the Arabs to go eat their oil.
    The only thing American knows these days is to feed their addictions and make warfare. We need to feed people drugs to achieve anything, I mean actual drugs, since all other sources of addiction is already in use. We can legalize it and use it as reward for ingenuity, perhaps then America and Europe could be innovative in other ways than stealing and managing computer digits, paper, nickel and copper.

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    Re: "Islamic Terrorism" - Dependent or Independent?

    I think we need to be mindful of what it is that Islamic Extremists are trying to achieve, at least those radicalized enough to pick up arms and suicide vests in an attempt to reach unachievable ends.

    For the most part, these men, now mostly devoid of any ties to any state, want to set up an Islamic Caliphate across all Muslium lands. Here is the crux of the issue, the Islamic world is vast and incredibly diverse. I am not sure that Indonesians want to be linked to Morocco via Saudi Arabia. I am fairly certain that Iran and Iraq are not about to throw aside centuries of animosity and embrace each other to restor a dictatorial Caliphate that would impose a harsh brand of Islam that would lock the Islamic world into their own dark ages.

    US foriegn policy, which is minful of the much greater desire by the Islamic World to join the rest of the world, to connect into the global economic community, and lauching stablization efforts for the legitimate governments in the region is not at fault or even the cause of the terrorists inability to impose a Caliphate upon the entire Islamic World. What they are asking for is not feasible without horrific violence and bloodshed. Any country anywhere who says, "We disagree" will be put into the cross hairs of these men. They are addicted to a dream with no connection to pragmatism or practicality. They are zealots who have adandoned every facet of morality to kill for a purpose that cannot be achieved.

    What does US foreign policy have to do with that?

    Are there problems with US foreign policy in the region? You bet. There will always be things we can do better.

    Even if we fixed every last problem, would Islamic radical terrorism disappear? No. In fact, even if we left the region entirely, it would be presented as a great victory in Allah's very preverted name. All that would happen would be more people killed as they realized that the, SURPRISE, there is another obstacle to the Caliphate. We must not abandon the majority of Islam because there are those of ill intent who would prevert moderation in the name of Islam and use violence to achieve their ends. This is about replaced governments, in some cases very bad governments, with a even worse form of government. There is a reason the Caliphate fell.

    Osama Bin Laden and those around him are not seeking to redress a specific grievence, they are looking for glory in rivers of blood.

    The only way to handle those who have adopted this mentality is to kill or capture them. They must be rigorously isolated from the innocent they will prey upon or victimize, their insane narrative confonted, and hunted with the utmost ferocity. There is no placating this foe.
    Last edited by gree0232; 11-13-09 at 09:29 PM.

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    Re: "Islamic Terrorism" - Dependent or Independent?

    Yea islamic terrorism is explained in India and Africa as a result of American foriegn policy..I think people need to wake up.
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