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    Re: Political Correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    I've met few people who directly advocate "political correctness." It seems to me that the most "politically correct" position these days is attacks on political correctness.
    Probably because PC has become so ingrained in a lot of people that they don't even realize that they are doing it half the time. For example: Blacks vs African-American. Or saying his/her instead of just one or the other when refering to someone whose sex you do not know.
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    Re: Political Correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Okay, let's take the Wiktionary def:



    Based on that def, PC is pretty vague (ie many areas affected by law, regulation, and public pressure). It's a subject that is very open to interpretation, and cannot definitively be "good" or "bad". My own philosophy is to allow people to be who they are, pc or not, as long as they aren't causing demonstrable harm to another individual.

    The "PC" movement is a form of peer induced speech control that seeks to forbid the utterance of political idea not approved by the peer group.

    For example, the PC rules state that the only people allowed to use the word "nigger" are gangsters and Senator Byrd.

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    Re: Political Correctness

    P.C Is a polite way to talk to someone and lie to their face, about the way you really feel,and make it acceptable to the main stream people.
    If you have to lie to someone when you talk to them,why even bother talking to them in the first place?Maybe you're scared of a physical response to what you say to them.

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    Re: Political Correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by rudedog View Post
    P.C Is a polite way to talk to someone and lie to their face, about the way you really feel,and make it acceptable to the main stream people.
    If you have to lie to someone when you talk to them,why even bother talking to them in the first place?Maybe you're scared of a physical response to what you say to them.
    No, it's not.
    It's a way of putting the person first, and their race/ ethnicity/ disability/ sexual orientation/ gender second.
    The hope has always been that if we as a society consciously changed our speech patterns to be more inclusive, our thinking would follow.
    This hope has, to some extent, been realized.

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    Re: Political Correctness

    There's not much I despise more than PC thought police bull****.

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    Re: Political Correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    No, it's not.
    It's a way of putting the person first, and their race/ ethnicity/ disability/ sexual orientation/ gender second.
    The hope has always been that if we as a society consciously changed our speech patterns to be more inclusive, our thinking would follow.
    This hope has, to some extent, been realized.
    And here I always think of people as individuals; something that includes their race, gender, hair color, language spoken, job, etc. Otherwise, they'd just be another faceless ghost in a crowd. Perfectly meaningless.

    I prefer my way of thinking and seeing actual individuals to boxing everyone up as merely faceless humans.

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    Re: Political Correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    No, it's not.
    It's a way of putting the person first, and their race/ ethnicity/ disability/ sexual orientation/ gender second.
    The hope has always been that if we as a society consciously changed our speech patterns to be more inclusive, our thinking would follow.
    This hope has, to some extent, been realized.
    No, it's a form of thought control, imposing peer group sanctions on those who violate the tabu concepts and words.

    What PC really is.

    The purpose of Newspeak was not only to provide a medium of expression for the world-view and mental habits proper to the devotees of Ingsoc, but to make all other modes of thought impossible. It was intended that when Newspeak had been adopted once and for all and Oldspeak forgotten, a heretical thought—that is, a thought diverging from the principles of Ingsoc—should be literally unthinkable, at least so far as thought is dependent on words.
    or...

    "The purpose of PC is not only to provide a medium of expression for the world-view and mental habits proper to the devotees of socialism, but to make all other modes of thought impossible. It is intended that when PC has been adopted once and for all and Oldspeak forgotten, a heretical thought—that is, a thought diverging from the principles of Ingsoc—should be literally unthinkable, at least so far as thought is dependent on words."

    If the PCer can think the word "freedom", he can't demand it.
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    Re: Political Correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    No, it's not.
    It's a way of putting the person first, and their race/ ethnicity/ disability/ sexual orientation/ gender second.
    The hope has always been that if we as a society consciously changed our speech patterns to be more inclusive, our thinking would follow.
    This hope has, to some extent, been realized.
    When I talk to someone,I'm talking to them,I'm not going to white wash what I'm saying to them,how else will people know how someone else really feels.
    But then again I have respect for my fellow man.
    Where I work I'm a supervisor,I get to evaluate people at the end of jobs or during jobs depending on how they perform at work.
    I evaluate them on their job,work abilities,how they perform.
    All that other stuff you throw in their doesn't matter,because you are judging that person and nothing else.
    If more people did things that way,maybe we all could be better people.

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    Re: Political Correctness

    I actually think that political correctness has done a lot of harm to race relations in the U.S. It makes interacting with someone of a different race somewhat uncomfortable and awkward, because you're afraid you might say or even think the wrong thing. Ironically, that which was intended to bring races together has probably played a role in keeping them apart.

    I think there is a spectrum ranging from racism to PC, and over the last 50 years we as a culture jumped from the former end to the latter... but to truly achieve racial integration we'd need to be at the center of that spectrum.

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    Re: Political Correctness

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Ironically, that which was intended to bring races together has probably played a role in keeping them apart.
    Actually, I'm not so sure that it was ever intended to bring races together. There may have been a few individuals who had good intentions, but the actions of many people in powerful positions wouldn't have much bargaining power if we all got along with each other. Just think of all the politicians who wouldn't have a platform to sell if they couldn't portray one group as victims and the other group as a-holes. I think that the civil rights movement was needed and necessary to break some barriers, but instead of just letting people learn how to get along and actually get to know each other, politicians took it up as an eternal stick to whip up support for themselves.

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