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Should the lost pilots have their licenses revoked?

What should happen to the lost pilots?

  • They should get a warning

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Why all the fuss? Everyone has lapses from time to time

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I'd hire them if I had an airline

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    17
I agree that the pilots are DUMB and DUMBER candidates but what would be the basis of the law suit ?

Reckless endangerment.

There was no loss of life thank God.

There doesn't have to be.

There were no injuries, thank luck.

There doesn't have to be.

The only possible action that I can think of is if a passenger was late for something that caused that passenger to suffer a financial loss.

His/her life was in undue risk.

Therefore I do not see a tort action here....

Yeah but you're wrong.
 
In more temperate and less self-indulgent times, people didn't suggest or think of suing every time something went wrong in life.
 
Reckless endangerment.

That'd be a tough one to prove, IMO, but IANAL

I seriously doubt that anybody wants them to get off scott free. I know that in a job like that of an airline pilot, awareness - not only to the sky around you but the instruments and functional mechanisms of the aircraft itself) are important. The issue is, and always has been IMO the punishment fitting the crime. Certainly you have to consider the nature of it, the previous record of the pilots in question, and just applying common sense instead this emotional bloodlust that ALWAYS comes up in issues like - and very different from - this.

IMO, they shouldn't get their licenses completely revoked as some people have said they should. That is the textbook definition of seeking bloodlust instead of actually addressing the issue. Fired? Maybe yes, being aware of your surroundings is important in being a pilot, paying attention to what is going on in the cockpit and the airspace is absolutely vital... not to mention that being late can cause issues with regards to connections and even other flights that are supposed to be coming in later that may be delayed from the extra time caused by this aircraft occupying this gate for longer than it should, ultimately costing Delta $$$ - something no airline has a lot of right now.

I wouldn't be surprised, if the pilot's story is true and they were reviewing company policies and scheduling software as I heard, tried to take Delta on claiming they created this situation by applying the pressure to quickly learn these new policies and whatnot. It could happen, I'm not saying whether or not I support that move.
 
Probably not, but the FAA is making a political move, not a rational one. They think everyone expects them to fire the pilots so they're firing the pilots.

I had a nice long conversation with a 30+ commercial airline veteran who says what they did isn't unusual or uncommon. At best, they should be suspended for a couple of months and required to undergo retraining. Firing them is rather silly, but the FAA is often a silly organization.

Being out of contact for an hour is usual?? Uh...uh. No way. They had all kind of emergency vehicles waiting for them along with agents when they landed. This is nothing to be laughed away. This is not usual. If it is than that airline is pathetic.

And being on laptops for an hour with headsets off ...yeah....right. I wonder if they were joined in a hot liaison instead and just lost all track of time in the heat of the moment.:2razz:
 
That'd be a tough one to prove, IMO, but IANAL

I seriously doubt that anybody wants them to get off scott free. I know that in a job like that of an airline pilot, awareness - not only to the sky around you but the instruments and functional mechanisms of the aircraft itself) are important. The issue is, and always has been IMO the punishment fitting the crime. Certainly you have to consider the nature of it, the previous record of the pilots in question, and just applying common sense instead this emotional bloodlust that ALWAYS comes up in issues like - and very different from - this.

IMO, they shouldn't get their licenses completely revoked as some people have said they should. That is the textbook definition of seeking bloodlust instead of actually addressing the issue. Fired? Maybe yes, being aware of your surroundings is important in being a pilot, paying attention to what is going on in the cockpit and the airspace is absolutely vital... not to mention that being late can cause issues with regards to connections and even other flights that are supposed to be coming in later that may be delayed from the extra time caused by this aircraft occupying this gate for longer than it should, ultimately costing Delta $$$ - something no airline has a lot of right now.

I wouldn't be surprised, if the pilot's story is true and they were reviewing company policies and scheduling software as I heard, tried to take Delta on claiming they created this situation by applying the pressure to quickly learn these new policies and whatnot. It could happen, I'm not saying whether or not I support that move.

I wouldn't need to prove it, just frighten the airline into settling out of court.
 
I wouldn't need to prove it, just frighten the airline into settling out of court.

You say in your description of yourself that you are clinging to your Bible. Do you think threatening a lawsuit in order to get a settlement is biblical? :cool:

A yes or no answer will do, preferably with a supporting passage from scripture.
 
Being out of contact for an hour is usual?? Uh...uh. No way. They had all kind of emergency vehicles waiting for them along with agents when they landed. This is nothing to be laughed away. This is not usual. If it is than that airline is pathetic.

And being on laptops for an hour with headsets off ...yeah....right. I wonder if they were joined in a hot liaison instead and just lost all track of time in the heat of the moment.:2razz:

Northwest rules specifically permit pilots to be on their laptops. Delta rules, the rule-set that the airline was in the middle of switching to due to a buyout, does not. I'm certainly not defending their hour-long escapade but to say that it shouldn't have happened at all demonstrates a misunderstanding of commercial piloting. Most of the time, pilots are little more than passengers in the cockpit.
 
I wouldn't need to prove it, just frighten the airline into settling out of court.

That wouldn't mean they have actually committed reckless endangerment, that means you perfected your ability to scare others into submission. :roll: Big difference.
 
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