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    Re: Would the U.S. attacked Afghanistan if Hussein Obama had been President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Alright. Firstly, his foreign policy identity for a political leader was created in the aftermath of 9/11 and Bush's response to it. I would question anyone's judgment that we know sufficiently of his pre-9/11 ideology, furthermore if the man could have been seen in a decision-making capacity to begin with.
    The man he was before 9/11 is the same as the man in office today. All ya need to do is do a little bit of research.

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    Second, history happened, and that was that, and I'm not much for science fiction.
    Fair enough.

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    Third, Gore would have perhaps been a better candidate for the question, but again, science fiction.
    Gore imo would have been stupid for this question. Just like his video about GW.
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    Re: Would the U.S. attacked Afghanistan if Hussein Obama had been President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    The man he was before 9/11 is the same as the man in office today. All ya need to do is do a little bit of research.



    Fair enough.



    Gore imo would have been stupid for this question. Just like his video about GW.
    What basis do we have for that idea? Obama was a member of the Illinois Senate at the time, if I am not mistaken, nearly completely if not completely concentrated for domestic policy. Second of all, his foreign policy outlook only really started becoming fleshed out at around the time of the Iraq war regarding the Iraq war. Third of all, Obama was not plugged into the decision-making process with foreign affairs at around that time. Fourth, it's presumptuous to argue that once, if we even knew where he stood at such a time on what to do and to what degree (I'm skeptical), we could somehow translate that into the hypothetical situation of him being thrown into the hot seat at that moment and be able to figure out what they would do.

    The most I could think of was if we wanted to look at his advisers, it is possible that a Clintonian (?) identity would flesh out, where they would limit the response to strikes. But again, was the response a given for the political environment, making it difficult to approach the reaction to 9/11 in a more traditional way of dealing with terrorism, the way the Clinton administration dealt with it? For a historical perspective, it's far too early to really begin to flesh that idea out, and from another interpretation of the study of history, it is entirely possible (an approach that I am more willing to support) that such an examination would lead scholars nowhere-leaving with their hands in the air, much more willing to accept what happened and move on.
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    Re: Would the U.S. attacked Afghanistan if Hussein Obama had been President?

    I think so...No matter who the President in Charge in Afghanistan, I guess U.S . would still attacked them. I guess its the matter of fighting for what you believe is right

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    Re: Would the U.S. attacked Afghanistan if Hussein Obama had been President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    The Taliban was a co-conspirator in the 9-11 attacks and are thus just as guilty as AQ proper.
    Conspiracy theory.

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    Re: Would the U.S. attacked Afghanistan if Hussein Obama had been President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elena View Post
    Conspiracy theory.
    Not really. Probably just not accurate information. At the highest echelons, I'm sure some operational plans were discussed. I'd be surprised if 9/11 was, in detail, just because of the sensitive nature of the timing necessary, etc.

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    Re: Would the U.S. attacked Afghanistan if Hussein Obama had been President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elena View Post
    Conspiracy theory.
    You're a joke, it's not a theory it's a fact, AQ was a part of the Taliban government, you have no rebuttal for the points raised, thanks for playing.

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    Re: Would the U.S. attacked Afghanistan if Hussein Obama had been President?

    Quote Originally Posted by kansaswhig View Post
    Not really. Probably just not accurate information. At the highest echelons, I'm sure some operational plans were discussed. I'd be surprised if 9/11 was, in detail, just because of the sensitive nature of the timing necessary, etc.
    Once again, AQ was part and parcel to the Taliban government led by Mullah Omar, they had a seat on the Taliban's ministry of defense, there was a special branch of the Taliban military known as the 055 brigade which was made up exclusively of AQ fighters, and the Taliban granted them a safe haven in which to train and from which to launch attacks. Christ, Bin Ladens son is married to Mullah Omars daughter.

    When people claim that the Taliban didn't attack us it's like saying that if the CIA decided to bomb a building in; say, Saudi Arabia, that it wasn't the U.S. government attacking them.

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    Re: Would the U.S. attacked Afghanistan if Hussein Obama had been President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    You're a joke, it's not a theory it's a fact, AQ was a part of the Taliban government, you have no rebuttal for the points raised, thanks for playing.
    What points? What facts?

    You did not have an investigation into the biggest single mass murder since 1950-s! You still have NOTHING, no evidence at all, to tie OBL or Taliban to 9/11. Have you read your official report into the crime? "Cross my heart and hope to die" from CIA and assorted Bushmen is NOT an evidence!

    In fact, all we have is two conspiracy theories: one official, the other unofficial.

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    Re: Would the U.S. attacked Afghanistan if Hussein Obama had been President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Once again, AQ was part and parcel to the Taliban government led by Mullah Omar, they had a seat on the Taliban's ministry of defense, there was a special branch of the Taliban military known as the 055 brigade which was made up exclusively of AQ fighters, and the Taliban granted them a safe haven in which to train and from which to launch attacks. Christ, Bin Ladens son is married to Mullah Omars daughter.

    When people claim that the Taliban didn't attack us it's like saying that if the CIA decided to bomb a building in; say, Saudi Arabia, that it wasn't the U.S. government attacking them.
    No doubt the Taliban was as responsible as AQ for their actions. They were implicit in them because they harbored them. The only point I'm making is that AQ was ultra-secretive about 9/11 (as you can imagine) and I'd be surprised if average Joe Taliban knew about it.

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    Re: Would the U.S. attacked Afghanistan if Hussein Obama had been President?

    Quote Originally Posted by kansaswhig View Post
    No doubt the Taliban was as responsible as AQ for their actions. They were implicit in them because they harbored them. The only point I'm making is that AQ was ultra-secretive about 9/11 (as you can imagine) and I'd be surprised if average Joe Taliban knew about it.
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