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    Re: "Illegal Alien"

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    Goodness. If only I had claimed that the term "alien" originated as a propaganda term instead of claiming that its modern usage in the context of discussion of immigration was for propagandistic purposes. If only.
    That also, wasn't part in the entry.

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    Re: "Illegal Alien"

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I can't even SAY tzotzil, much less speak it, darlin. I have the limitations of thousands of years of whiteness. I also can't slur my r's.
    Spanish is a white language invented by a white people; where's the excuse?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    the terms have a legal meaning that is not communicated by the more propagandistic--Wait. I mean politically correct--phrase "undocumented," which implies that they have some legal status in this country but have simply set their documents aside momentarily.

    Actually, the term "undocumented" implies some illicit avoidance of a criminal registration system, not that it's accurate, since many illegal immigrants simply have fake documents. But "illegal immigrant" avoids the more obviously crude terms designed to play on ill-conceived xenophobic sentiments rather than rational analysis.

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    That also, wasn't part in the entry.
    Was I referring to the entry? Was I referring to a definition, or the context of the term's usage?

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    Re: "Illegal Alien"

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    Spanish is a white language invented by a white people; where's the excuse?
    They aren't MY KIND of white people.

    Actually, the term "undocumented" implies some illicit avoidance of a criminal registration system, not that it's accurate, since many illegal immigrants simply have fake documents. But "illegal immigrant" avoids the more obviously crude terms designed to play on ill-conceived xenophobic sentiments rather than rational analysis.
    I'm a fan of illegal immigrant, but I understand that's passe in many latino communities.

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    Re: "Illegal Alien"

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    Was I referring to the entry? Was I referring to a definition, or the context of the term's usage?
    Nowhere in there is Alien reffered to as a propaganda term

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    Re: "Illegal Alien"

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    They aren't MY KIND of white people.
    They're Mediterranean, true, but there's still more genetic similarity between Mediterranean, Anglo-Saxon, and Scandinavian whites than between Mediterranean whites and Amerindians and Siberians. Spaniards' Spanish does sound kind of stupid, IMO, and you'd probably not want to say "vosotros" anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I'm a fan of illegal immigrant, but I understand that's passe in many latino communities.


    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    Nowhere in there is Alien reffered to as a propaganda term

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    Re: "Illegal Alien"

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    It's all expended; when they came here, they surreptitiously stole my skills and scavenged my success. They took our jobs!
    They also sucked up all of your food stamps......

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    Re: "Illegal Alien"

    Quote Originally Posted by Coon County View Post
    They also sucked up all of your food stamps......
    And cut down on our Ritalin supply, from the look of it.

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    Re: "Illegal Alien"

    Where's the option for "I don't give a **** if someone is offended by the truth" ?

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    Re: "Illegal Alien"

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    There's nothing dehumanizing about it, it is expressly pointing out that they have violated the law. If that's dehumanizing, they have no one to blame but themselves.
    It's more dehumanizing to prevent them from working.

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    Re: "Illegal Alien"

    We have to make an effort to protect oue own working class. People whose ancestors built this country.

    Mexico has to make an effort to provide jobs to its citizens, unless it's easier to just ship them across the border, leaving their parents and wives and children. Nobody wants to move to a different country away from their loved ones and their culture!

    We should strive to do everything we can to undo this mess. Anything that forces Mexico and other countries to provide jobs to its citizens is the right thing to do. Our open arms are hurting the illegals in the end.

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