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    Re: Is Gay Marriage a Constitutional Right in the U.S.?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I think it's as much a constitutional right as hetero marriage is. I can't wait until it's legalized across the board and the issue stops cluttering up the political scene where far more important issues need to be addressed.
    Right, just like how RvW resolved the abortion issue. Take interracial marriage as another example, since Loving you would never hear of a Justice refusing to marry couples on the basis of race. It's unheard of.

    Legalizing a thing clearly ends the controversy.
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    Re: Is Gay Marriage a Constitutional Right in the U.S.?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Marriage exists because our species has for millions of years valued the relationship which forms and maintains the family above all other relationships.
    Yes... but that would me 'marriage' in the terms of a relationship between two people - not the legal construct that is the real reason for the discussion.

    You can call anyone you want your husband/wife -- but that doesnt mean the state recongizes it, and if the state doesn't recongize it, then no matter how many times you're referred to someone as your husband/wife, they do not qualify as such when dealing with all of the various laws regarding same.

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    Re: Is Gay Marriage a Constitutional Right in the U.S.?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Marriage exixts because state laws say so.
    If you repeal the state laws, marriage ceases to exist.
    This, alone, means that marriage is a privilege, not a right, as rights exist independent of an act of creation by the government.
    The 14th amendment protects privileges though.

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    Re: Is Gay Marriage a Constitutional Right in the U.S.?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Marriage exixts because state laws say so.
    If you repeal the state laws, marriage ceases to exist.
    This, alone, means that marriage is a privilege, not a right, as rights exist independent of an act of creation by the government.

    Note specifically that while a state may allow same-sex couples to marry, this marriage need not be recognize by other states, and is NOT rexongized by the federal government.
    The state has now authority to violate gay's right to privacy by sticking it's nose in their business unless that gay couple is raising children.

    Legalizing gay-marriage for childless couples is a gross violation of basic human rights, and I wish a painful death on those homophobic politicians who violate the rights of gay citizens by establishing gay-marriage.
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    Re: Is Gay Marriage a Constitutional Right in the U.S.?

    No, it's not, but then again, *NO* marriage is a constitutional right in the U.S. However, if you are going to legalize heterosexual marriage, you have no credible basis whatsoever for outlawing homosexual marriage. The constitution guarantees equality for all, not just the politically-correct.
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    Re: Is Gay Marriage a Constitutional Right in the U.S.?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    The state has now authority to violate gay's right to privacy by sticking it's nose in their business unless that gay couple is raising children.

    Legalizing gay-marriage for childless couples is a gross violation of basic human rights, and I wish a painful death on those homophobic politicians who violate the rights of gay citizens by establishing gay-marriage.
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    Re: Is Gay Marriage a Constitutional Right in the U.S.?

    Having your marraige legally recognized by the government is not a right, it's a privilege granted by the state for tax benefits and ease of legal proceedings.
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    Re: Is Gay Marriage a Constitutional Right in the U.S.?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Having your marraige legally recognized by the government is not a right, it's a privilege granted by the state for tax benefits and ease of legal proceedings.
    Actually marriage is a right and the states loose out on taxes. On the whole when taxes are paid everybody wins in reference to marriage be it gay or heterosexual.

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    Re: Is Gay Marriage a Constitutional Right in the U.S.?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Marriage exists because our species has for millions of years valued the relationship which forms and maintains the family above all other relationships.

    Marriage existed long before anything called a "state" was ever dreamed up.
    Did state-sanctioned marriages exist before a "state"? Because that's what we're talking about.

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    Re: Is Gay Marriage a Constitutional Right in the U.S.?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Is marriage a Constitutional right? BTW, the Constitution does not bestow rights.
    "Bestow"... LOL

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