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    Re: Is Gay Marriage a Constitutional Right in the U.S.?

    marriage should be abolished completely if two consenting adults whatever age that might be cannot get married. any other rule is not the way it should be.
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    Re: Is Gay Marriage a Constitutional Right in the U.S.?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    SCOTUS has already ruled that marriage is a right.
    What happens to this "right" if all the states repeal their marriage laws?

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    Re: Is Gay Marriage a Constitutional Right in the U.S.?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    What happens to this "right" if all the states repeal their marriage laws?
    Nothing since it is a federal issue at this point. Full Faith and Credit Clause:

    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_Faith_and_Credit_Clause]Full Faith and Credit Clause - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

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    Re: Is Gay Marriage a Constitutional Right in the U.S.?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    What happens to this "right" if all the states repeal their marriage laws?
    A lot of the difficulties with this subject was born out of usurpation of power by the State. Is marriage a "right", with what marriage currently is today; yes it is. What marriage is now is a state issued and recognized contract. Right to Contract is a basic right of the People, you are free to engage in contract. As such, the government has no right to tell you that you can't set your affairs to the degree you wish with someone whom is same sexed as you.

    Now what happens to the "right" if marriage laws are repealed. The problem is we are talking about two different things. Marriage in and of itself is not a right, it was originally a religious ceremony. If you got rid of the marriage license, you can return it again to a fully religious event. But because the government has taken it, it has become valid to our rights, specifically in the case of marriage Right to Contract. You can't get rid of that right no matter what. You can remove the institution of marriage from it, but you cannot end Right to Contract, it is a fundamental right of all freemen.
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    Re: Is Gay Marriage a Constitutional Right in the U.S.?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Nothing since it is a federal issue at this point. Full Faith and Credit Clause:
    There is no fedral law that creates the institution of marrige.

    If all the state laws that create and recongnize the institution of marriage are repealed - therefby eliminating any FF&C argument - then how does the institution of marriage still exist? What happens to the "right"?

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    Re: Is Gay Marriage a Constitutional Right in the U.S.?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    No it wouldn't be based on the Constitution.
    Then what would be the basis of your objection? "Hey I don't like this!" doesn't really hold water in court.

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    Re: Is Gay Marriage a Constitutional Right in the U.S.?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Marriage in and of itself is not a right,
    SCOTUS disagrees with you

    it was originally a religious ceremony.
    It was originally a transference of property when women and children were treated as chattel.

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    Re: Is Gay Marriage a Constitutional Right in the U.S.?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    It was originally a transference of property when women and children were treated as chattel.
    Source please?

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    Re: Is Gay Marriage a Constitutional Right in the U.S.?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Now what happens to the "right" if marriage laws are repealed. The problem is we are talking about two different things. Marriage in and of itself is not a right, it was originally a religious ceremony. If you got rid of the marriage license, you can return it again to a fully religious event. But because the government has taken it, it has become valid to our rights, specifically in the case of marriage Right to Contract. You can't get rid of that right no matter what. You can remove the institution of marriage from it, but you cannot end Right to Contract, it is a fundamental right of all freemen.
    Are you arguing that state cannot repeal their marriage laws?
    And/or that doing so woudl have no effect on the institution of marriage?

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    Re: Is Gay Marriage a Constitutional Right in the U.S.?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    There is no fedral law that creates the institution of marrige.

    If all the state laws that create and recongnize the institution of marriage are repealed - therefby eliminating any FF&C argument - then how does the institution of marriage still exist? What happens to the "right"?
    Okay fine live in a fantasy world.

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