View Poll Results: Should the NFL be doing more to recruit non-Blacks as players?

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  • They should have quotas to properly represent each ethnic group

    2 4.55%
  • They need a specific affirmative action program for non-Blacks

    0 0%
  • They should make more effort to recruit non-Blacks

    3 6.82%
  • 70% does seem out of balance, are they giving Blacks preferential treatment?

    3 6.82%
  • If Blacks are better at football, so be it. The best player should play

    36 81.82%
  • They need more Black coaches and less Black players

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    Re: Should the NFL do more to recruit non-Blacks as players?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I work in a lab, you probably don't want to know the demographics of physicists.
    i probably already do. why, i wonder?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Should the NFL do more to recruit non-Blacks as players?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Yes. They do. I know, I grew up black.



    Redicules fallacy.

    My contention is that there is. Coming from people like yourself who think blacks can't make it without some kind of advantage.



    How white guilt of you.
    lol.....i grew up poor and white. did you grow up poor?

    i have no white guilt. no guilt at all, as a matter of fact.

    i don't believe equal opportunity is an advantage.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Should the NFL do more to recruit non-Blacks as players?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Yet Rob Johnson was never taken as one of the best QBs ever, and he has better stats than McNabb and a Super Bowl win.
    You cannot possibly mean Rob Johnson. He was ****ing terrible. His stats aren't even in the same ballpark as McNabb's. Although he was on the Bucs superbowl team, it was as a backup to Brad Johnson.

    And if we compare Brad Johnson's career stats: Brad Johnson: Career Stats

    To McNabb's career stats: Donovan McNabb: Career Stats

    We see that they are pretty similar in the raw passing stats, except for TD's and INT's, where McNabb looks a good deal better in both categories (20% more TDs and 25% fewer INTS with a similar number of total attempts).

    Those are far from being "better" stats for Johnson, if anything those passing numbers are worse (except completion percentage. Johnson's got that one... barely)

    Add in McNabb's rushing stats and the length of their careers to achieve the similar stats and there's no comparison. McNabb slaughters Brad Johnson.

    Here are Rob Johnson's stats, by the way, in case you think I'm bull****ting that he sucked:

    Rob Johnson: Career Stats

    Rob Johnson seriously sucked.

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    Re: Should the NFL do more to recruit non-Blacks as players?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    but how can you deny children the opportunity for an equal education?
    You mean like the white person that got passed up for the black that flunked out? Or the white person that scored much higher on the entrance exam but got beat out by someone else's race?

    Since when are 18 and 19 year olds children? I suppose you think we send children off to war as well?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    because right now, it's not happening. hence, the opportunity to attend top notch colleges is denied, at least more remote.
    Welcome to the real world. Work hard and rise up to the challenge.

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i don't belive equal opportunity = equal outcome, but i want the OPPORTUNITY to be there.
    as i mentioned before, economics plays a big role.
    Not as big as you mite think. It is still irrelevant. any quota based on race is wrong, period. Nothing you can say to justify such racism, and it is racism.
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    Re: Should the NFL do more to recruit non-Blacks as players?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    You cannot possibly mean Rob Johnson. He was ****ing terrible. His stats aren't even in the same ballpark as McNabb's. Although he was on the Bucs superbowl team, it was as a backup to Brad Johnson.

    And if we compare Brad Johnson's career stats: Brad Johnson: Career Stats

    To McNabb's career stats: Donovan McNabb: Career Stats

    We see that they are pretty similar in the raw passing stats, except for TD's and INT's, where McNabb looks a good deal better in both categories (20% more TDs and 25% fewer INTS with a similar number of total attempts).

    Those are far from being "better" stats for Johnson, if anything those passing numbers are worse (except completion percentage. Johnson's got that one... barely)

    Add in McNabb's rushing stats and the length of their careers to achieve the similar stats and there's no comparison. McNabb slaughters Brad Johnson.

    Here are Rob Johnson's stats, by the way, in case you think I'm bull****ting that he sucked:

    Rob Johnson: Career Stats

    Rob Johnson seriously sucked.
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    Re: Should the NFL do more to recruit non-Blacks as players?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    That still doesn't address the disparity in racial composition. We need the NFL to be more representative of America. White people deserve the same chance as blacks to play professional football. Black men's inherent physical superiority affords them an unfair physical advantage over whites. This must be rectified.
    white people have the same chance already. black men are inherently physically superior? really? are you angling for an MNF job?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Should the NFL do more to recruit non-Blacks as players?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    You mean like the white person that got passed up for the black that flunked out? Or the white person that scored much higher on the entrance exam but got beat out by someone else's race?

    Since when are 18 and 19 year olds children? I suppose you think we send children off to war as well?



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    Not as big as you mite think. It is still irrelevant. any quota based on race is wrong, period. Nothing you can say to justify such racism, and it is racism.
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    Re: Should the NFL do more to recruit non-Blacks as players?

    Damn it. Do we really need to make the NFL an object of partisan politics?

    Why couldn't we just ask this question more directly? Something along the lines of: "Do you agree with affirmative action?" Or more partisan "Do you think affirmative action should be abolished?".

    Now just because someone doesn't want affirmative action in the NFL, does not mean that they might not think it has a reasonable place in other institutions. There are thousands of industries, firms and businesses that are dominated by various categories of races, sexes, sexual orientations, where I don't think affirmative action has any place. However, education and public services are different because they are inherently political institutions. Sure we can debate as to whether affirmative action in these institutions is good public policy. However, bringing some irrelevant third party institution into the mix is just distracting. Just because we disagree on affirmative action in schools doesn't mean we need to disagree on the NFL.

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    Re: Should the NFL do more to recruit non-Blacks as players?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    You mean like the white person that got passed up for the black that flunked out? Or the white person that scored much higher on the entrance exam but got beat out by someone else's race?

    Since when are 18 and 19 year olds children? I suppose you think we send children off to war as well?



    Welcome to the real world. Work hard and rise up to the challenge.



    Not as big as you mite think. It is still irrelevant. any quota based on race is wrong, period. Nothing you can say to justify such racism, and it is racism.
    no, i mean like the third grader who doesn't have text books.......

    i don't believe i can argue with a person who believes economics is irrelevant. again, did you grow up poor?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Should the NFL do more to recruit non-Blacks as players?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    black men are inherently physically superior? really?
    There's a reason why the vast majority of NFL and NBA players are black. I don't think there's anything wrong with pointing it out.

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