View Poll Results: Should the NFL be doing more to recruit non-Blacks as players?

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  • They should have quotas to properly represent each ethnic group

    2 4.55%
  • They need a specific affirmative action program for non-Blacks

    0 0%
  • They should make more effort to recruit non-Blacks

    3 6.82%
  • 70% does seem out of balance, are they giving Blacks preferential treatment?

    3 6.82%
  • If Blacks are better at football, so be it. The best player should play

    36 81.82%
  • They need more Black coaches and less Black players

    0 0%
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    Re: Should the NFL do more to recruit non-Blacks as players?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    see what you did......you took this straight to rush and racism. that's why i'm not playing. the subject has been exhausted.
    It's an overall assessment. Just because you can't argue against it doesn't mean you should make things up and run away. It's shows the overall problem. Here we have a league that is 70% black, doesn't reflect demographics. But we're ok with that. If the percentage is reversed, say as it is with NFL coaches (I don't know the actual percentage, but there's more white NFL coaches), then all of a sudden we need criteria based on race. You have to do X in that case. This even penetrates into criticism. The entirety of the double standard, that some endorse (I have a feeling you're one of them) has saturated through. Yet if we think in terms of the reverse (trying to promote more white football players as example), of course people think it to be absurd.

    You merely are hunting and pecking for ways out of the argument. "OH noes! I seez Rush in a sentence!!!!! Let's dodge!". But whatever, you can run if you want. But I think the premise of the thread is valid in considering what we should have as base rules and regulations. Are we upholding quotas, or do we base it on performance? If there are quotas involved, it needs to work all ways.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Should the NFL do more to recruit non-Blacks as players?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    can students who attend sub par schools receiving a sub par education compete for the same university spots as those students attending superior schools?
    So students with sub par athletics receiving sub par athletic training compete for the same team spots as those students attending superior athletic schools?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Should the NFL do more to recruit non-Blacks as players?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    can students who attend sub par schools receiving a sub par education compete for the same university spots as those students attending superior schools?
    Yes. If you can't do it on your own merit you should not ****ing be there!!!! Damn it is not that hard people.

    School is what you make of it. I went to inner city schools in Chicago. It was crappy, but I made due. Went to a community college like most people after the Army.

    Anything is possible if you have the drive, period.
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    Re: Should the NFL do more to recruit non-Blacks as players?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So students with sub par athletics receiving sub par athletic training compete for the same team spots as those students attending superior athletic schools?
    sigh. has anyone ever complained about THAT?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Should the NFL do more to recruit non-Blacks as players?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    sigh. has anyone ever complained about THAT?
    Yes they have. Thats why we now have the bull**** "everyone is a winner" crap. Can't let little Johnny learn that you have to work to be the best, everything is just given to you.

    It is amazing how stupid the majority of people are.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Should the NFL do more to recruit non-Blacks as players?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    sigh. has anyone ever complained about THAT?
    It's an illustration of the point. If we're performances base, those from sub-standard schools cannot compete with those from superior schools. It's the same with athletics..and well most anything. Those with skill and opportunity succeed and can compete against the best. Those without cannot. What justifies some areas as needing placement of unfair laws while others go by pure competition.

    You see, the solution to your problem isn't that we should give those without the ability to compete a chance to play for the Patriots. It's that the school system which is in dire need of an overhaul needs to be overhauled. Fix the base, don't apply band-aids. In the end, a band-aid will not fix the root problem.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Should the NFL do more to recruit non-Blacks as players?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It's an illustration of the point. If we're performances base, those from sub-standard schools cannot compete with those from superior schools. It's the same with athletics..and well most anything. Those with skill and opportunity succeed and can compete against the best. Those without cannot. What justifies some areas as needing placement of unfair laws while others go by pure competition.

    You see, the solution to your problem isn't that we should give those without the ability to compete a chance to play for the Patriots. It's that the school system which is in dire need of an overhaul needs to be overhauled. Fix the base, don't apply band-aids. In the end, a band-aid will not fix the root problem.
    You say it so much better than I can.

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    Re: Should the NFL do more to recruit non-Blacks as players?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Yes they have. Thats why we now have the bull**** "everyone is a winner" crap. Can't let little Johnny learn that you have to work to be the best, everything is just given to you.

    It is amazing how stupid the majority of people are.
    althletics is very different. education is much more important, and that's the place where i believe we still need affirmative action. mostly economics, imo.

    and just who is stuipd?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Should the NFL do more to recruit non-Blacks as players?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    can students who attend sub par schools receiving a sub par education compete for the same university spots as those students attending superior schools?
    Then why don't you adress the issue of poverty? Poor and minority aren't interchangable

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    Re: Should the NFL do more to recruit non-Blacks as players?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It's an illustration of the point. If we're performances base, those from sub-standard schools cannot compete with those from superior schools. It's the same with athletics..and well most anything. Those with skill and opportunity succeed and can compete against the best. Those without cannot. What justifies some areas as needing placement of unfair laws while others go by pure competition.

    You see, the solution to your problem isn't that we should give those without the ability to compete a chance to play for the Patriots. It's that the school system which is in dire need of an overhaul needs to be overhauled. Fix the base, don't apply band-aids. In the end, a band-aid will not fix the root problem.
    those with skill are not necessarily those with opportunity. football, basketball and other sports are in not the same arena as education.

    it's not MY problem, it's OUR problem. equal opportunity should mean just that, and it clearly doesn't.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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