View Poll Results: Does the original intent still matter when discussing the Constitution?

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  • Yes. We should strictly follow both the letter and spirit of the original intent.

    28 35.90%
  • Yes. We should follow the original principles and then apply them as new issues arise.

    21 26.92%
  • Yes. The original intent of the Constition is important, but other factors must be considered.

    15 19.23%
  • No. The Constitution is a guiding set of principles that we can interrpret to fit our current needs.

    10 12.82%
  • Other

    4 5.13%
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    Re: The Constitution: Does Original Intent Still Matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    The time is now 1:06 pm....
    I eat a late lunch... on second thought, I have a date tonight, so maybe tomorrow.

    what do you feel needs to be changed in the constitution as-is?
    I'd be happy if even the constitution was reratified as it is, it's more I think its something that should be done just to keep us aware of whats in it, and to get us to truly debate the ups and downs of the document.
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    Re: The Constitution: Does Original Intent Still Matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    Do you think we should have periodic rewritings, or a timed-out constitution?
    Were you going to address my position on the topic or go off on a tangent?

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    Re: The Constitution: Does Original Intent Still Matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Were you going to address my position on the topic or go off on a tangent?
    I did respond, you must have missed it. And I'm returning to what I was talking about before you branched the conversation
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    Re: The Constitution: Does Original Intent Still Matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    I eat a late lunch... on second thought, I have a date tonight, so maybe tomorrow.
    LOL...


    I'd be happy if even the constitution was reratified as it is, it's more I think its something that should be done just to keep us aware of whats in it, and to get us to truly debate the ups and downs of the document.
    Someone stole my thanx button, so concider this a thanx.

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    Re: The Constitution: Does Original Intent Still Matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    I did respond, you must have missed it.
    Please re-post so I can respond.

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    Re: The Constitution: Does Original Intent Still Matter?

    That his opinion doesn't matter because he wasn't in Philidelphia? Sure, but I ask that you answer mine. I think limiting our framework to what a few people decided a few hundred years ago is limiting, and gives us no room to change with new technology. I also posit that they didn't all always agree on what things meant, there were some parts that they ratified after much debate and disagreement, and other parts they didn't debate at all so there's not a lot of documentation to go off of. We need to also remember that some things they'd have no answer for because it didn't exist back then. I mean, labor laws didn't exist back then because there was no real industry, for instance.
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    Re: The Constitution: Does Original Intent Still Matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    That his opinion doesn't matter because he wasn't in Philidelphia?
    So you -are- wanting to go off on a tangent.
    Enjoy.
    When you want to discuss my position regarding original intent, let me know.

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    Re: The Constitution: Does Original Intent Still Matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    That his opinion doesn't matter because he wasn't in Philidelphia? Sure, but I ask that you answer mine. I think limiting our framework to what a few people decided a few hundred years ago is limiting, and gives us no room to change with new technology. I also posit that they didn't all always agree on what things meant, there were some parts that they ratified after much debate and disagreement, and other parts they didn't debate at all so there's not a lot of documentation to go off of. We need to also remember that some things they'd have no answer for because it didn't exist back then. I mean, labor laws didn't exist back then because there was no real industry, for instance.
    The constitution doesn't cover labor laws, therefore the US government hasn't the right to pass labor laws under the laws this nation was founded on.... along with a lot of other things the government does illegally.

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    Re: The Constitution: Does Original Intent Still Matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    So you -are- wanting to go off on a tangent.
    Enjoy.
    When you want to discuss my position regarding original intent, let me know.
    Dude, I posted more in that post that I thought was responding to your position. Did you not read it or something?
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    Re: The Constitution: Does Original Intent Still Matter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    The constitution doesn't cover labor laws, therefore the US government hasn't the right to pass labor laws under the laws this nation was founded on.... along with a lot of other things the government does illegally.
    And how could the constitution cover something that effectively wasn't an issue back then?
    The Makeout Hobo is real, and does indeed travel around the country in his van and make out with ladies... If you meet the Makeout Hobo, it is customary to greet him with a shot of whiskey and a high five (if you are a dude) or passionate makeouts (if you are a lady).

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