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  • Yes. The rule against weapons on campus needs to be enforced! What sort of message does that send?

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  • He should have gotten less time since it wasn't a very deadly weapon and his intent was not violent

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  • I'm not sure about this one...

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  • He should have had a warning.

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  • What is wrong with school official these days? Seriously, this is ridiculous!

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    Should this Eagle Scout have been suspended for keeping 2" pocketknife in his car?

    New York Eagle Scout Suspended From School for 20 Days for Keeping Pocketknife in Car - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News - FOXNews.com

    A 17-year-old Eagle Scout in upstate New York has been barred from stepping foot on school grounds for 20 days for keeping a 2-inch pocketknife locked in a survival kit in his car.

    Matthew Whalen, a senior at Lansingburgh Senior High School, says he follows the Boy Scout motto and is always prepared, stocking his car with a sleeping bag, water, a ready-to-eat meal and the knife, which was given to him by his grandfather, a police chief in a nearby town.

    But Lansingburgh High has a zero-tolerance policy, and when school officials discovered that Whalen kept his knife locked in his car, he says, they suspended him for five days and then tacked on an additional 15 after a hearin

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    Re: Should this Eagle Scout have been suspended for keeping 2" pocketknife in his car

    20 days is definitely too harsh. For a 2'' knife I would think only 1 or 2 days would be necessary.

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    Re: Should this Eagle Scout have been suspended for keeping 2" pocketknife in his car

    I think the school is in the wrong here. Zero-tolerance means that there can be absolutely no exceptions. Zero-tolerance does NOT mean that the punishment must be extremely severe.

    5 days suspension was more than adequate.
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    Re: Should this Eagle Scout have been suspended for keeping 2" pocketknife in his car

    It's ridiculous for him to be punished AT ALL. "Zero tolerance" just means "zero discretion in applying common sense." If it was really such a big deal, just confiscate the knife or tell him not to bring it anymore.
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    Re: Should this Eagle Scout have been suspended for keeping 2" pocketknife in his car

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    It's ridiculous for him to be punished AT ALL. "Zero tolerance" just means "zero discretion in applying common sense." If it was really such a big deal, just confiscate the knife or tell him not to bring it anymore.
    I agree with this. You see these types of cases and you wonder why school officials don't understand critical thinking. You saw some of this with girls taking a Midol because of menstrual cramps and getting hard time because of the anti-drug policy.

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    Re: Should this Eagle Scout have been suspended for keeping 2" pocketknife in his car

    It's fairly ridiculous. But then again, on the whole, so are we.
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    Re: Should this Eagle Scout have been suspended for keeping 2" pocketknife in his car

    Isn't the point of High School to teach the young and prepare them for life?

    What would have happened in the adult world? Let's say that you were going through a screening for the airport or some other 'weapon free zone'. You didn't know the exact rules or didn't remember that you had this lethal weapon in your possession.

    What would happen? Would they prosecute you?

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    Re: Should this Eagle Scout have been suspended for keeping 2" pocketknife in his car

    Mixed feelings about this. On one hand, a 17 year old should understand that zero tolerance policy means zero tolerance. However, I also think zero tolerance is nothing more than a fail safe to keep school administrators from doing their jobs and actually administrating their schools. Instead of actually making a damned decision and being held accountable for that decision, they get to point to a zero tolerance "policy" and say "derrr, there's nothing we can do".

    It's kind of ridiculous.

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    Re: Should this Eagle Scout have been suspended for keeping 2" pocketknife in his car

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Mixed feelings about this. On one hand, a 17 year old should understand that zero tolerance policy means zero tolerance. However, I also think zero tolerance is nothing more than a fail safe to keep school administrators from doing their jobs and actually administrating their schools. Instead of actually making a damned decision and being held accountable for that decision, they get to point to a zero tolerance "policy" and say "derrr, there's nothing we can do".

    It's kind of ridiculous.
    Well let's say this kid gets a free pass, and then some gang member gets in trouble for having a knife in his car, and says "well he had one too!"
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    Re: Should this Eagle Scout have been suspended for keeping 2" pocketknife in his car

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    Well let's say this kid gets a free pass, and then some gang member gets in trouble for having a knife in his car, and says "well he had one too!"
    If the circumstances are the same, why should ANYONE be suspended for 20 days for having a knife in their car?
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