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  • Yes. The rule against weapons on campus needs to be enforced! What sort of message does that send?

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  • He should have gotten less time since it wasn't a very deadly weapon and his intent was not violent

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  • I'm not sure about this one...

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  • He should have had a warning.

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  • What is wrong with school official these days? Seriously, this is ridiculous!

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    Re: Should this Eagle Scout have been suspended for keeping 2" pocketknife in his car

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    If the circumstances are the same, why should ANYONE be suspended for 20 days for having a knife in their car?
    Do you think a high school kid should be allowed to bring weapons onto school campus? The gang member might get in a fight and find the guy he fought with after school and stab him.
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    Re: Should this Eagle Scout have been suspended for keeping 2" pocketknife in his car

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    Do you think a high school kid should be allowed to bring weapons onto school campus?
    I certainly don't think they should be allowed to carry weapons around with them to class, no. If the weapons are in the car, I guess it would depend on the weapon and why they have it. A pocketknife is hardly something to get to worked up about...especially when the kid seems like he had a legitimate reason for having it.

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo
    The gang member might get in a fight and find the guy he fought with after school and stab him.
    And the art student with scissors in his car might get in a fight after school and stab someone. A baseball player with a bat in his car might get in a fight after school and club someone.
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    Re: Should this Eagle Scout have been suspended for keeping 2" pocketknife in his car

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I certainly don't think they should be allowed to carry them around with them, no. If the weapons are in the car, I guess it would depend on the circumstances. A pocketknife is hardly something to get to worked up about.
    I agree 2' might be a bit small to worry about.


    And the art student with scissors in his car might get in a fight after school and stab someone. A baseball player with a bat in his car might get in a fight after school and club someone.
    You obviously never went to a school in a gang infested area. My high school never had out of control baseball players or art students. Gang violence, we had more than enough of that.
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    Re: Should this Eagle Scout have been suspended for keeping 2" pocketknife in his car

    He wasn't carrying the weapon on his person. It was locked away in a secure location. The suspension was out of line.

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    Re: Should this Eagle Scout have been suspended for keeping 2" pocketknife in his car

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    You obviously never went to a school in a gang infested area. My high school never had out of control baseball players or art students. Gang violence, we had more than enough of that.
    OK...but this kid wasn't a gangster, he was an Eagle Scout.

    And wasn't your question why a gang member couldn't say the same thing if THEY got caught with a knife? What makes the scissors or baseball bat any different then?
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    Re: Should this Eagle Scout have been suspended for keeping 2" pocketknife in his car

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    OK...but this kid wasn't a gangster, he was an Eagle Scout.
    Yes, but under most situations, the school can't apply different standards to different students. If they said "well yes, but it was ok because he was an Eagle Scout", they could potentially get in trouble.

    And wasn't your question why a gang member couldn't say the same thing if THEY got caught with a knife? What makes the scissors or baseball bat any different then?
    Show me the last time a baseball player or art student used their respective tools as weapons.
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    Re: Should this Eagle Scout have been suspended for keeping 2" pocketknife in his car

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    Yes, but under most situations, the school can't apply different standards to different students. If they said "well yes, but it was ok because he was an Eagle Scout", they could potentially get in trouble.
    And this is exactly the problem with Zero Tolerance policies.

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo
    Show me the last time a baseball player or art student used their respective tools as weapons.
    Show me the last time an Eagle Scout used his pocketknife as a weapon. Didn't you just say that they couldn't apply different standards to different people?
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    Re: Should this Eagle Scout have been suspended for keeping 2" pocketknife in his car

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    And this is exactly the problem with these stupid Zero Tolerance policies.
    Yes, but I'm sure the possible law suit is worse.

    Show me the last time an Eagle Scout used his pocketknife as a weapon. Didn't you just say that they couldn't apply different standards to different people?
    And if the gang member (who of course, you can't prove is actually a Norteno) says "he brought one too?"
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    Re: Should this Eagle Scout have been suspended for keeping 2" pocketknife in his car

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    Yes, but I'm sure the possible law suit is worse.



    And if the gang member (who of course, you can't prove is actually a Norteno) says "he brought one too?"
    So why couldn't the same reasoning be applied to the scissors or baseball bat?
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    Re: Should this Eagle Scout have been suspended for keeping 2" pocketknife in his car

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    So why couldn't the same reasoning be applied to the scissors or baseball bat?
    Scissors and baseball bats are very rarely used as weapons. People get stabbed at or around school comparatively often.
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