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  • Yes. The rule against weapons on campus needs to be enforced! What sort of message does that send?

    3 4.84%
  • He should have gotten less time since it wasn't a very deadly weapon and his intent was not violent

    3 4.84%
  • I'm not sure about this one...

    0 0%
  • He should have had a warning.

    7 11.29%
  • What is wrong with school official these days? Seriously, this is ridiculous!

    49 79.03%
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    Re: Should this Eagle Scout have been suspended for keeping 2" pocketknife in his car

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Read what I posted again, but this time pull your head out of your ass.
    You were baiting me.
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    Re: Should this Eagle Scout have been suspended for keeping 2" pocketknife in his car

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightdemon View Post
    You were baiting me.
    No I ****ing was not you paranoid so in so. I made a general statement directed at people who support zero tolerance. After your response I pointed out a part of it that could apply to you.

    Holy **** man get a ****ing clue.
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    Re: Should this Eagle Scout have been suspended for keeping 2" pocketknife in his car

    This case is almost as silly as that case where that 6 year-old boy took his camping untisels to school.

    They were going to send a 6 year-old to reform school! What the **** is wrong with these people?

    He's an eagle scout!!! If I were that school, I wouldn't be worried about an eagle scout with a two inch camping knife!

    What's next?

    Are they going to suspend third graders for having those giant sharpened pencils?

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    Re: Should this Eagle Scout have been suspended for keeping 2" pocketknife in his car

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    No I ****ing was not you paranoid so in so. I made a general statement directed at people who support zero tolerance. After your response I pointed out a part of it that could apply to you.

    Holy **** man get a ****ing clue.
    Fine whatever.
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    Re: Should this Eagle Scout have been suspended for keeping 2" pocketknife in his car

    Hmm so it is now being reported that the School District doesn't even have a Zero Tolerance Policy anywhere on the books.

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    Re: Should this Eagle Scout have been suspended for keeping 2" pocketknife in his car

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightdemon View Post
    Or it could be that some folks just don't understand what is it I'm trying to say, and instead of trying to understand they just think I'm out to get all those boy scouts with pocket knives.

    For **** sakes, no one on here actually knows what I'm talking about!


    I do not think that 20 days of suspension was fair. He should have recieved less. However, because of the zero-tolerance policy was in place, the administrators could not give anything else except the minimum. If the administrators hands were tied, how can it be their fault? If you blame the administrators, then that is an unfair judgment.

    Your beef is with the policy itself and why it was in place in the first place. Which I have acknowledge that it isn't always good, but nonetheless the zero-tolerance policy still serves a purpose (a safegaurd against discrimination). Which is why I have said that you must choose your poison.
    No, we don't agree he should be punished. The principal and school board have discretion in applying policies.
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    Re: Should this Eagle Scout have been suspended for keeping 2" pocketknife in his car

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    No, we don't agree he should be punished. The principal and school board have discretion in applying policies.
    I don't think he should be punished either. There's a difference however between should and must.

    He must be punished because the policy was in place. This is all I'm saying. Since the policy was in place at this school, the administrators must carry out the punishment because they must follow their own rules.

    So do I think the eagle scout should be punished? No. But do I think the school administrators were wrong in giving out the punishment? No because they have to follow their own rules.

    Whether you disagree that the zero-tolerance policy should be used is irrelevant because it was already part of the circumstances. Because of this the administrators could NOT do nothing.
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    Re: Should this Eagle Scout have been suspended for keeping 2" pocketknife in his car

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Hmm so it is now being reported that the School District doesn't even have a Zero Tolerance Policy anywhere on the books.
    Where did you find this piece of information? That would be interesting.
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    Re: Should this Eagle Scout have been suspended for keeping 2" pocketknife in his car

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightdemon View Post
    Where did you find this piece of information? That would be interesting.
    School Chief Sticks By 'Zero Tolerance' Ruling for Eagle Scout - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News - FOXNews.com

    From the article,

    Lansingburgh Central School District Superintendent George J. Goodwin, 55, said in a written statement that his district "has an established policy of zero tolerance with respect to the possession of weapons of any kind on school property or in school buildings."

    But nowhere in the school district's rule book, which is published online, is there any mention of a "zero tolerance" policy, leading some to question whether Goodwin, in fact, was compelled to suspend the youth.

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    Re: Should this Eagle Scout have been suspended for keeping 2" pocketknife in his car

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    School Chief Sticks By 'Zero Tolerance' Ruling for Eagle Scout - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News - FOXNews.com

    From the article,

    Lansingburgh Central School District Superintendent George J. Goodwin, 55, said in a written statement that his district "has an established policy of zero tolerance with respect to the possession of weapons of any kind on school property or in school buildings."

    But nowhere in the school district's rule book, which is published online, is there any mention of a "zero tolerance" policy, leading some to question whether Goodwin, in fact, was compelled to suspend the youth.
    This changes everything for me. If there was no zero-tolerance policy in place, then there is no one forcing the administrators to punish the scout. That's very disappointing.

    But how come the superintendent was not aware that his own school didn't have a zero-tolerance policy? This seems very odd.
    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
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