View Poll Results: Should this Eagle Scout have been suspended for keeping 2" pocketknife in his car?

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  • Yes. The rule against weapons on campus needs to be enforced! What sort of message does that send?

    3 4.84%
  • He should have gotten less time since it wasn't a very deadly weapon and his intent was not violent

    3 4.84%
  • I'm not sure about this one...

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  • He should have had a warning.

    7 11.29%
  • What is wrong with school official these days? Seriously, this is ridiculous!

    49 79.03%
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    Re: Should this Eagle Scout have been suspended for keeping 2" pocketknife in his car

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    Isn't the point of High School to teach the young and prepare them for life?

    What would have happened in the adult world? Let's say that you were going through a screening for the airport or some other 'weapon free zone'. You didn't know the exact rules or didn't remember that you had this lethal weapon in your possession.

    What would happen? Would they prosecute you?
    They would confiscate it. Been there, done that.

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    Re: Should this Eagle Scout have been suspended for keeping 2" pocketknife in his car

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    "made this idiotic decision" was meant to include whomever put that policy in place
    Actually, the entire blame is on the zero-tolerance policy. The only fault here is that the policy is in place. The administrators, although giving the student a harsh punishment, were not in the wrong. If it the hands of the administrators were tied, then it's a little unfair to make your judgment like that.
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    Re: Should this Eagle Scout have been suspended for keeping 2" pocketknife in his car

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightdemon View Post
    Is that what you think I was saying? Seriously, you've been confused, and you still are. You have no idea what I'm trying to say. It seems obvious that you have no intention of understanding what I'm trying to say as well.
    No. It is what I think of people who support "zero tolerence" in any form.

    What the **** does this have to do with you?

    Although this...

    "If it keeps the children safe, it's OK to screw over a few people." - Blackdog

    Certainly applies to you...

    "In the case of this Eagle scout, the zero-tolerance rule must apply, which just means that some form of punishment needs to be given. If this rule was not applied to this eagle scout, then he is an exception to the rule, and weapons is now introduced onto campus, thus defeating the purpose of having a zero-tolerance policy against weapons on campus.

    There can be no exception to the zero-tolerance policy, but the the level of punishment can be discretionary.
    " - Lightdemon

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    Re: Should this Eagle Scout have been suspended for keeping 2" pocketknife in his car

    Most schools have become Nazi-like since Columbine happened. I believe some of them are taking things waaaaaaaaaaaay to far.

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    Re: Should this Eagle Scout have been suspended for keeping 2" pocketknife in his car

    I think lightdemon has something against Scouts to be arguing this **** for this long.
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    Re: Should this Eagle Scout have been suspended for keeping 2" pocketknife in his car

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I think lightdemon has something against Scouts to be arguing this **** for this long.
    Or it could be that some folks just don't understand what is it I'm trying to say, and instead of trying to understand they just think I'm out to get all those boy scouts with pocket knives.

    For **** sakes, no one on here actually knows what I'm talking about!


    I do not think that 20 days of suspension was fair. He should have recieved less. However, because of the zero-tolerance policy was in place, the administrators could not give anything else except the minimum. If the administrators hands were tied, how can it be their fault? If you blame the administrators, then that is an unfair judgment.

    Your beef is with the policy itself and why it was in place in the first place. Which I have acknowledge that it isn't always good, but nonetheless the zero-tolerance policy still serves a purpose (a safegaurd against discrimination). Which is why I have said that you must choose your poison.
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    Re: Should this Eagle Scout have been suspended for keeping 2" pocketknife in his car

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    No. It is what I think of people who support "zero tolerence" in any form.

    What the **** does this have to do with you?

    Although this...

    "If it keeps the children safe, it's OK to screw over a few people." - Blackdog

    Certainly applies to you...
    So let me get this straight, your post wasn't addressed to me, but that little bolded part applied to me...And you didn't expect to get a response from me? Please, you were getting your shots in, and you expected me to just let you say those things about me? You're not fooling anyone.
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    Re: Should this Eagle Scout have been suspended for keeping 2" pocketknife in his car

    First off the Young Man didn't have the pocket knife on his person it was locked in a survival kit in the trunk of his car. So please once again show me how this so-called zero tolerance works.

    According to the School District no student can carry a weapon on their person.

    The last time I look a car isn't consider part of your person.

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    Re: Should this Eagle Scout have been suspended for keeping 2" pocketknife in his car

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    First off the Young Man didn't have the pocket knife on his person it was locked in a survival kit in the trunk of his car. So please once again show me how this so-called zero tolerance works.

    According to the School District no student can carry a weapon on their person.

    The last time I look a car isn't consider part of your person.

    According to the actual school policy:

    Possessing a weapon. Authorized law enforcement officials are the only persons permitted to have a weapon in their possession while on school property or at a school function.


    It only says possession. It does not explicitly say that it must be on your person. If the car is a possession of the student, then so is the knife.
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    Re: Should this Eagle Scout have been suspended for keeping 2" pocketknife in his car

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightdemon View Post
    So let me get this straight, your post wasn't addressed to me, but that little bolded part applied to me...And you didn't expect to get a response from me? Please, you were getting your shots in, and you expected me to just let you say those things about me? You're not fooling anyone.
    Read what I posted again, but this time pull your head out of your ass.
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