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    Patriotism: Good or Bad?

    A thread which stems from a discussion here: http://www.debatepolitics.com/genera...up-pledge.html

    And because it's inevitable in the course of this thread:
    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/patriotism
    devoted love, support, and defense of one's country; national loyalty.
    Take your pick and explain.
    Last edited by Dav; 10-13-09 at 06:53 PM.

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    Re: Patriotism: Good or Bad?

    I think it is generally a good thing, but can be taken too far.
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    Re: Patriotism: Good or Bad?

    I'm neutral on that one.

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    Re: Patriotism: Good or Bad?

    It's neutral. What matters is what people do in the name of patriotism.

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    Re: Patriotism: Good or Bad?

    It can go either way really. There's no shame in having some pride in your country. The foundations of it, the ideology of it, etc. So long as you don't let it override rational thought. And also note that love of country doesn't necessarily mean love of government.
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    Re: Patriotism: Good or Bad?

    Patriotism is a good thing. There's nothing wrong with showing loyalty to your country.
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    Re: Patriotism: Good or Bad?

    There's different kinds of patriotism. I won't attempt to list them all, but I'll talk about the type that I don't particularly like.

    Those who are overtly patriotic kind of annoy me. Much of the "patriotic" things they do are stuff like putting multiple American Flag stickers on their cars. They talk about how disrespectful it is to soil the flag, but they probably own a pair of flag underwear. Those who think that if they yelled out the pledge of allegiance, it would make them better citizens or Americans. And Freedom Fries, can't forget about them.

    This type of patriotism is just so superficial, it's almost insulting. If you are truly a patriot, then you ought to do something for your country. What you shouldn't be doing is putting the country on a pedestal because quite frankly is achieves nothing. You don't have to join the army to be a patriot. You can just do jury duty (willingly!). Or go clean up a local park by just picking up trash for 10 minutes with your kids. Installing a 50 foot flagpole in your front yard won't make you a better American is what I'm trying to say.
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    Re: Patriotism: Good or Bad?

    I believe, overall, it is a good thing because it reinforces interest in what is good for the nation as opposed to what is good for oneself, or some other stance that may cause divisions among countrymen. It is a unifier--it serves to help people recognize that people came before them and will come after them, and to bring people together under a common purpose without undue coersion or force.

    That said, it also depends on the principles of the nation in question. patriotism can also be twisted and used for personal or political gain by individuals or factions, so people should look out for this--as I don't believe this is truly patriotism, though people may say it is to draw people in.
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    Re: Patriotism: Good or Bad?

    Patriotism, like prayer, can be a virtue or a bludgeon.

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    Re: Patriotism: Good or Bad?

    As long as you have a flag bumper sticker on your foreign-made vehicle, you're good.

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