View Poll Results: Which of these registration requirements violate your rights?

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  • The requirement to register... to vote

    3 7.89%
  • ... to have an abortion

    18 47.37%
  • ... to attend a political rally

    28 73.68%
  • ... to send a letter to the editor

    26 68.42%
  • ... to publish a letter to the editor

    25 65.79%
  • ... to buy a gun

    18 47.37%
  • ... to post a blog

    25 65.79%
  • ... to go to church

    26 68.42%
  • ... none of the above

    5 13.16%
  • ... all of the above

    5 13.16%
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    Re: Does registration infringe on your right to...

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    wait....the gov't (people) didn't create the bill of rights? sure they did.
    No, the People created the bill of rights. The Constitution established the government, the current government could not exist before the Constitution was ratified. Hence, it could not have created the Bill of Rights as the Bill of Rights, along with the Constitution, were created before that government existed.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Does registration infringe on your right to...

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    argument being that the act of registration violates your right to privacy? because registering a gun certainly doesn't violate your right to bear arms.
    It does, because it puts a precondition on owning a fire arm.
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    Re: Does registration infringe on your right to...

    Quote Originally Posted by other View Post
    To Clarify:
    The constitution enumerates rights that may not be violated by the government.
    It enumerates some rights......not being mentioned does not mean the right does not exist.
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    Re: Does registration infringe on your right to...

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Okay fine rights pre exist government. W/O goverment what authority is going enforce those rights?
    Rights are not enforced, they are preserved.
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    Re: Does registration infringe on your right to...

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    It enumerates some rights......not being mentioned does not mean the right does not exist.
    As specifically stated by the 10th amendment.

    I find it sad and dangerous that some believe everything is granted through the power of the government. But governments do not have innate power. Everything they wield is because the People have allowed it. Government's do not create themselves, they are created by the People. Government are restricted, the People are not. Recognizing the rights of the individual and allowing people to exercise their rights at their discretion is a limit on government. Rights are to limit the government, not the other way around.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
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    Re: Does registration infringe on your right to...

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    It enumerates some rights......not being mentioned does not mean the right does not exist.
    I never said that exclusion from the bill of rights negated any pre-existing rights not listed.

    And the 10th covers that as a failsafe.
    Last edited by other; 10-14-09 at 03:04 PM.

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    Re: Does registration infringe on your right to...

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    wait....the gov't (people) didn't create the bill of rights? sure they did.
    Wait... you didn't notice that there is no language within those enumerations that GRANTS those rights? Sure there isn't.

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    Re: Does registration infringe on your right to...

    Quote Originally Posted by other View Post
    I never said that exclusion from the bill of rights negated any pre-existing rights not listed.

    And the 10th covers that as a failsafe.
    Don't feel criticized, I was clarifying for those who like to bend words.
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    Re: Does registration infringe on your right to...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No, the People created the bill of rights. The Constitution established the government, the current government could not exist before the Constitution was ratified. Hence, it could not have created the Bill of Rights as the Bill of Rights, along with the Constitution, were created before that government existed.
    the people are the govt'.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Does registration infringe on your right to...

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Wait... you didn't notice that there is no language within those enumerations that GRANTS those rights? Sure there isn't.
    you're right again. i have a hard time understanding why they needed to be enumerated, if they already existed, though.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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