View Poll Results: Which of these registration requirements violate your rights?

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  • The requirement to register... to vote

    3 7.89%
  • ... to have an abortion

    18 47.37%
  • ... to attend a political rally

    28 73.68%
  • ... to send a letter to the editor

    26 68.42%
  • ... to publish a letter to the editor

    25 65.79%
  • ... to buy a gun

    18 47.37%
  • ... to post a blog

    25 65.79%
  • ... to go to church

    26 68.42%
  • ... none of the above

    5 13.16%
  • ... all of the above

    5 13.16%
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Thread: Does registration infringe on your right to...

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    Re: Does registration infringe on your right to...

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    saeems to me the gov't granted those very rights, did they not?
    Government doesnt grant rights -- rights pre-exist government.
    If the government grants you something, its a privilege, not a right.

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    Re: Does registration infringe on your right to...

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Government doesnt grant rights -- rights pre-exist government.
    If the government grants you something, its a privilege, not a right.
    sorry, the gov't enumerated those rights.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Does registration infringe on your right to...

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    sorry, the gov't enumerated those rights.
    Sorry - you obviously didn't notice that there is no language within those enumerations that GRANTS those rights.
    Last edited by Goobieman; 10-14-09 at 03:06 PM.

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    Re: Does registration infringe on your right to...

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    sorry, the gov't enumerated those rights.
    To Clarify:
    The constitution enumerates rights that may not be violated by the government.

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    Re: Does registration infringe on your right to...

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I have, and I repeat, illustrated to you in a clear and concise manner how your statement is wrong.

    Repeating your statement doesn't change that -- you need to actually counter the argument I put forth and show it to be unsound.

    To this point, you have not done so.
    Given up, eh?

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    Re: Does registration infringe on your right to...

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Government doesnt grant rights -- rights pre-exist government.
    If the government grants you something, its a privilege, not a right.
    Okay fine rights pre exist government. W/O goverment what authority is going enforce those rights?

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    Re: Does registration infringe on your right to...

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Okay fine rights pre exist government. W/O goverment what authority is going enforce those rights?


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    Re: Does registration infringe on your right to...

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Okay fine rights pre exist government. W/O goverment what authority is going enforce those rights?
    You.

    Thats the way it used to work -- and then, to secure these rights, governments were instituted among men.

    So, we gave the government the power to (some of) the job that we, ourselves, used to do.

    That in no way means that we get our rights from the government or depend on it for same.

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    Re: Does registration infringe on your right to...

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    sorry, the gov't enumerated those rights.
    Aww, you ignored everything I wrote.

    The Government did not enumerate those rights, We the People, the creators of the government, enumerated those rights. The People reserved the rights, not the government. The government does not have the power to grant rights, it cannot do so. It can issue privilege, but not rights. The rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights and those not listed (as stated in the 10th) are reserved by the People, not the government.
    Last edited by Ikari; 10-14-09 at 03:46 PM.
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    Re: Does registration infringe on your right to...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Aww, you ignored everything I wrote.

    The Government did not enumerate those rights, We the People, the creators of the government, enumerated those rights. The People reserved the rights, not the government. The government does not have the power to grant rights, it cannot do so. It can issue privilege, but not rights. The rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights and those not listed (as stated in the 10th) are reserved by the People, not the government.
    wait....the gov't (people) didn't create the bill of rights? sure they did.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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