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    Re: Mexico Decriminalizes All Drugs!

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    The Death penalty would be inneffective. One is far more likely to die selling drugs on a street corner in Detroit than on death row in Texas
    Exactly.

    George Carlin said something quite similar.

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    And you know, in this country, now there are alot of people who want to expand the death penalty to include drug dealers. This is really stupid. Drug dealers aren't afraid to die. They're already killing each other every day on the streets by the hundreds. Drive-bys, gang shootings, they're not afraid to die. Death penalty doesn't mean anything unless you use it on people who are afraid to die. Like... the bankers who launder the drug money. The bankers, who launder, the drug money. Forget the dealers, you want to slow down that drug traffic, you got to start executing a few of these ****ing bankers. White, middle class Republican bankers.

    And I'm not talking about soft, American executions, like lethal injection. I'm talking about ****ing crucifixion folks! Let's bring back crucifixions. A form of capital punishment the Christians and Jews of America can really appreciate. And I'd go a little further, I'd crucify people upside-down. Like Saint Peter, feet up, head down. And naked. I'd have naked upside-down crucifixions on TV once a week at halftime on the Monday Night Football game! Halftime! Monday Night! The Monday Night Crucifixions! You'd have people tuning in, don't even care about Football! Wouldn't you like to hear Dan Dierdorf explain why the nails have to go in at a certain angle? And I'll guarantee you one thing. You start execut- you start nailing one white banker per week to a big wooden cross, you're going to see that drug traffic begin to slow down pretty ****ing quick. Pretty ****ing quick- you won't even be able to buy drugs in schools and prisons anymore!
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    Re: Mexico Decriminalizes All Drugs!

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    That's like saying we should get rid of laws against murder. It's prohibition. If people want to kill, it is their right to kill. We can apply that to every type of law. To go down that road is anarchy.
    Do you understand the difference between hurting other people and not hurting other people? Because if you did you wouldn't have come up with such an absurd analogy.

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    Re: Mexico Decriminalizes All Drugs!

    A full decriminalization would mean being able to buy an 18-wheeler full of cocaine, as you now can with beer.

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    Re: Mexico Decriminalizes All Drugs!

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Exactly.

    George Carlin said something quite similar.
    LMAO. How true.

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    Re: Mexico Decriminalizes All Drugs!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    As does drug use. The user is the victim even assuming the user's children and immediate family are not harmed (which would be an extremely rare and exotic example).
    How can someoen victimize themselves!? And what gives you the right or the authority to "protect" them from it?

    Jerry plays too much WOW. He's victimizing himself. We need to protect him from WOW and himself.

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    Re: Mexico Decriminalizes All Drugs!

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    By the same token, being able to do drugs isn't a right either. The constitution is entirely silent on the matter. Therefore, arguing that people have a right to do drugs is absurd.
    1. Just because a right isn't enumerated in the Constitution does not mean it isn't a right. READ THE NINTH AMENDMENT.

    2. The Constitution does not grant us rights and neither does the government. Humans retain their rights innately. I don't need you're morality or your permission to use drugs. It's my body and I'm not hurting anyone else. If I want to do drugs it IS my right, regardless of what you or anyone else thinks.

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    Re: Mexico Decriminalizes All Drugs!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    1. Just because a right isn't enumerated in the Constitution does not mean it isn't a right. READ THE NINTH AMENDMENT.
    Which only means we can come up with more later. It doesn't mean you get to invent some on your own.

    2. The Constitution does not grant us rights and neither does the government. Humans retain their rights innately. I don't need you're morality or your permission to use drugs. It's my body and I'm not hurting anyone else. If I want to do drugs it IS my right, regardless of what you or anyone else thinks.
    Yes, actually, they do. Rights are granted solely by the society in which you live. Without people around, the concept of rights has no meaning.
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    Re: Mexico Decriminalizes All Drugs!

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I don't particularly give a damn about the victims, I care about the social costs caused by drugs. I care about people who are unable to work because of drugs that our social safety net has to pay for. I care about the medical costs incurred by these users. I care about the tax burden that is incurred by these users. I care about the lost tax revenue that is caused by these users.

    The individual users themselves can all drop dead for all I care, they made their decision, let them deal with the consequences.
    Sooo, lemme see here... you think it should be illegal for anyone to do anything that might possibly sometime in the unforeseeable future make them unable or unwilling to work and/or incur high medical costs? Like... sports. Alcohol. Food. Gambling. Video games. Smoking. Couches and TVs. Having children.

    Really, it boils down to being born. That's what should be illegal. People are born, and then they just go to **** and cost all of us money.

    Seriously though, all of these things boil down to individual choices. Food is okay in moderation. Alcohol is okay in moderation. Gambling is okay in moderation. Smoking is okay in moderation. Playing sports ... well... you're just always at risk for getting ****ed there. Video games are okay in moderation. TV is okay in moderation. All of these things could make someone want to be irresponsible and not go to work, or do criminal things, or hurt people, or risk hurting themselves - but it's up to the individual to moderate themselves and if and when they are unable to, then they **** up and are punished. We do not need to outlaw every goddamn thing that could possibly in some unforeseeable future make someone want to do something bad to themselves or others. We just can't. It's stupid to even entertain the notion. We don't do it for everything in the world, we can't. And we shouldn't do it for drugs either.

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    Re: Mexico Decriminalizes All Drugs!

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Which only means we can come up with more later. It doesn't mean you get to invent some on your own.
    Wearing black boxers on your head isn't a right. It's not even in the Constitution!



    Yes, actually, they do. Rights are granted solely by the society in which you live. Without people around, the concept of rights has no meaning.
    Why do I need other people to validate my innate desire to live free?

    If society says you don’t have the “right” to life and someone starts strangling you will you just sit there until you asphyxiate because society never validated your desire to live?

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    Re: Mexico Decriminalizes All Drugs!

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    In non-urban areas, yes. Montana did it for years without repercussions.
    This interests me, could you post the link please?

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