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Thread: Should the 17th Amendment be removed?

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    Re: Should the 17th Amendment be removed?

    A repeal of the 17th amendment would take alot of power away from lobbying interests.

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    Re: Should the 17th Amendment be removed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I do not imagine anything would be gained by getting rid of the 17th amendment. The constitution is too valuable to change for minor reasons, and that is what this is.
    so passing the 17th amendment was OK but removing it was not? bit of a disconnect in your logic there



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    Re: Should the 17th Amendment be removed?

    Quote Originally Posted by The silenced majority View Post
    A repeal of the 17th amendment would take alot of power away from lobbying interests.
    why? they would just lobby indirectly to the state legislatures and than throw money at the ppl elected by the state legislature.
    You need to see, if you have not already, Other Peoples Money

    the rules may change, but they adapt. They are just playing the game to the best of their abilities.

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    How the hell did you just tie in a retroactive reparative measure with a proactive preventative measure. Not even close to being the same thing.

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    Re: Should the 17th Amendment be removed?

    Think about how much worse pork could get. A senator might try to put a project in a legislator's district to keep his vote.
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    Re: Should the 17th Amendment be removed?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so passing the 17th amendment was OK but removing it was not? bit of a disconnect in your logic there
    The 17th amendment is passed now. It is now part of the constitution, and has been for almost 100 years. I see no overriding gain from further changing of it.

    For those who think repealing it would get rid of or reduce corruption, I find the thought unlikely, I think it would just change the nature of it, and pork barrel spending would if anything get much worse I suspect.
    Last edited by Redress; 10-11-09 at 03:38 AM.
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    Re: Should the 17th Amendment be removed?

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH View Post
    why? they would just lobby indirectly to the state legislatures and than throw money at the ppl elected by the state legislature.
    You see, I have much more control over my State Rep. I can drive to his office and speak to him 5 days out of the week. Even if he/she falls under the influence of lobbyists, if they do not convey my and the neighbors in my district's views affecting the governance and sovereignty of my state via the Senator they endorse to protect my State, they get booted the next election.

    Remember, the original role of the Senate was to protect the sovereignty of the individual States from the tyranny of the federal Government and the people themselves.

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    Haven't seen it.

    the rules may change, but they adapt. They are just playing the game to the best of their abilities.
    The framers of the Constitution were keenly aware of the dangers that political fads would pose to the sovereignty of the individual states. As it is now, both houses of congress easily fall prey to the whims of political fads & outside money and because of that a rash of federal laws - destructive to state-sovereignty have followed.
    Last edited by The silenced majority; 10-11-09 at 01:37 PM.

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    Re: Should the 17th Amendment be removed?

    Quote Originally Posted by The silenced majority View Post
    Haven't seen it
    Danny Devito plays a comedic Gordon Gecko

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    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    How the hell did you just tie in a retroactive reparative measure with a proactive preventative measure. Not even close to being the same thing.

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    Re: Should the 17th Amendment be removed?

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH View Post
    Danny Devito plays a comedic Gordon Gecko
    The chick in that film sort of grows on you. she goes from nerd to hot

    great film.



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    Re: Should the 17th Amendment be removed?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    The chick in that film sort of grows on you. she goes from nerd to hot

    great film.
    I didnt want to admit that publicly but will go public with you now

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    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    How the hell did you just tie in a retroactive reparative measure with a proactive preventative measure. Not even close to being the same thing.

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    Re: Should the 17th Amendment be removed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That is obvious and true of any one's opinion on these boards.
    Whch is why you shoud base your position on something objective, and then use it to create a sound argument.

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