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  • i make no assumptions. i simply acknowledge that i don't know one way or the other.

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    are you a trusting person ?

    let me give you a few examples of a situation where you can either assume the person is saying the truth or that he is lying:

    example 1: a guy approaches a girl in the bar, the girl asks him what college did he attend and what he does for a living. he replies that he graduated from Harvard and is a lawyer. do you assume he is saying the truth or do you assume he is lying ?

    example 2: a bunch of guys are hanging out with a bunch of girls then one girl asks one guy in front of everybody else - how big is your dick ? the guy answers 8 inches. do you assume he is exaggerating or do you assume that he read the number off a ruler ?

    example 3: a politician who has seven houses says that he deeply cares about the needs of an average worker. do you assume he is lying or saying the truth ?

    example 4: a girl starts crying telling her boyfriend " you never want to spend time with me, you don't care about me " and the guy replies " i am sorry i had so much work i didn't have any time to see you, i love you ". do you assume he is lying or saying the truth ?

    don't answer to any particular example just in general in cases such as the ones i describe ...
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    Re: are you a trusting person ?

    Very interesting poll.

    The third option makes the most sense to me. When people tell me things I tell myself "ok this is what they have told me, I don't know if it is true or false yet."

    I have the predetermined notion that what someone tells me is mostly true, but not always the complete truth. Its hard to explain, but anyway my point is that the third option is closest to what I believe.


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    Re: are you a trusting person ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    Very interesting poll.

    The third option makes the most sense to me. When people tell me things I tell myself "ok this is what they have told me, I don't know if it is true or false yet."

    I have the predetermined notion that what someone tells me is mostly true, but not always the complete truth. Its hard to explain, but anyway my point is that the third option is closest to what I believe.
    Pretty much the way it goes for me as well. I probably lean just a little more on the untrusting side tho.

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    Re: are you a trusting person ?

    are you a trusting person ?

    Depends on a number of factors.

    If it's said online on a forum then I will take them at their word if it is something personal. Until they contradict themselves. Then I won't ever believe anything they say unless it is verifiable. If it is something that is verifiable I will verify it before believing it.

    If it is in person and they are strangers then I will rely on two things. My gut feeling and their body language. If it is someone that I know then it will depend on what I know of their history.
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    Re: are you a trusting person ?

    Quote Originally Posted by NEUROSPORT View Post
    example 1: a guy approaches a girl in the bar, the girl asks him what college did he attend and what he does for a living. he replies that he graduated from Harvard and is a lawyer. do you assume he is saying the truth or do you assume he is lying ?
    If I were the girl I'd ask him what malum in se means.

    example 2: a bunch of guys are hanging out with a bunch of girls then one girl asks one guy in front of everybody else - how big is your dick ? the guy answers 8 inches. do you assume he is exaggerating or do you assume that he read the number off a ruler ?
    He's being modest in his bragging. Most men claim 9.

    example 3: a politician who has seven houses says that he deeply cares about the needs of an average worker. do you assume he is lying or saying the truth ?
    Depends. If it's one of the guys who owns Wal-Mart. Negatory.

    example 4: a girl starts crying telling her boyfriend " you never want to spend time with me, you don't care about me " and the guy replies " i am sorry i had so much work i didn't have any time to see you, i love you ". do you assume he is lying or saying the truth ?
    Probably. I've had my wife make the same complaint and we both work from home. I mean how much more time can we possibly spend together? Women are never happy. I mean I shave my balls and she still....... wait TMI.....hehehe.
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    Re: are you a trusting person ?

    Quote Originally Posted by NEUROSPORT View Post
    let me give you a few examples of a situation where you can either assume the person is saying the truth or that he is lying:

    example 1: a guy approaches a girl in the bar, the girl asks him what college did he attend and what he does for a living. he replies that he graduated from Harvard and is a lawyer. do you assume he is saying the truth or do you assume he is lying ?
    Probably lying.

    example 2: a bunch of guys are hanging out with a bunch of girls then one girl asks one guy in front of everybody else - how big is your dick ? the guy answers 8 inches. do you assume he is exaggerating or do you assume that he read the number off a ruler ?
    Probably lying to avoid embarrassment


    example 3: a politician who has seven houses says that he deeply cares about the needs of an average worker. do you assume he is lying or saying the truth ?
    Any politician who says they care about the average worker is lying. Especially if he supports illegal immigration or work visas when unemployment is high which screws the wages of workers and or if he supports outsourcing. Usually when a politician says they support average workers it means they just want their votes and are just telling the voters what they want to hear.

    example 4: a girl starts crying telling her boyfriend " you never want to spend time with me, you don't care about me " and the guy replies " i am sorry i had so much work i didn't have any time to see you, i love you ". do you assume he is lying or saying the truth ?
    Maybe. He could be telling the truth and the girl could simply be a selfish hoe that doesn't appreciate the hard work her boyfriend/husband does.


    don't answer to any particular example just in general in cases such as the ones i describe ...
    How do you use these questions as examples and expect people not to answer? If the questions were-
    1.Bum on the street corners holds a sign literally asking for money so he can buy beer.

    2.Bob says the whitehouse in Washington D.C.

    3.Vehicle will not start and the driver says he is out of gas.

    Obviously most people would say these individuals were being truthful.
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    Re: are you a trusting person ?

    Quote Originally Posted by NEUROSPORT View Post
    ...
    example 2: a bunch of guys are hanging out with a bunch of girls then one girl asks one guy in front of everybody else - how big is your dick ? the guy answers 8 inches. do you assume he is exaggerating or do you assume that he read the number off a ruler ?

    ...
    If a guy answered that question it would not matter whether he was lying or not. If he is stupid enough to answer, IMO, he is just too damned stupid to live.

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    Re: are you a trusting person ?

    Option three because no better option exists.


    Quote Originally Posted by NEUROSPORT View Post
    example 1: a guy approaches a girl in the bar, the girl asks him what college did he attend and what he does for a living. he replies that he graduated from Harvard and is a lawyer. do you assume he is saying the truth or do you assume he is lying ?
    There would be other clues available in this instance such as; dress, mannerisms, etc...
    More questioning would ensue.




    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by NEUROSPORT View Post
    example 2: a bunch of guys are hanging out with a bunch of girls then one girl asks one guy in front of everybody else - how big is your dick ? the guy answers 8 inches. do you assume he is exaggerating or do you assume that he read the number off a ruler ?
    He's being modest in his bragging. Most men claim 9.
    I would assume they are both telling the truth.
    Only because they measured starting at the 12" mark.




    Quote Originally Posted by NEUROSPORT View Post
    example 3: a politician who has seven houses says that he deeply cares about the needs of an average worker. do you assume he is lying or saying the truth ?
    Truthful.
    Because what one considers "deeply caring" may not be what another one does, nor does in mean that it takes priority over other areas of concern.




    Quote Originally Posted by NEUROSPORT View Post
    example 4: a girl starts crying telling her boyfriend " you never want to spend time with me, you don't care about me " and the guy replies " i am sorry i had so much work i didn't have any time to see you, i love you ". do you assume he is lying or saying the truth ?
    I would probably assume he is telling the truth, but how he presents his response may be an indication. It also depends on other circumstances in the relationship.
    But if I was the guy, I would probably assume that something else was bothering her.
    Last edited by Coolguy; 10-07-09 at 12:39 PM.

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    Re: are you a trusting person ?

    If a guy said he was from harvard I am mildly confident that I would have the verbal skills to ask questions and discern for myself whether it is true. Also. Who the hell lies that they're from harvard unless your 'in cancun' where you could get away with a lie for a one night stand.

    Who the hell lies about the size of their dick, knowing if they had the remotest chance of getting in bed with one of these girls why would they lie about it? I've read the size of my dick off a ruler btw it was years ago, something you gotta do.. And most people I know are mature enough not to lie about the size of their dongs.


    really being able to tell whether a person is lying or not has to do with alot of contextual factors that cant really be had in short anecdotal statement.

    So I cant really tell you if I would trust them or not. But I have to say most people I run into I assume never have to make outright lies like that.

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    Re: are you a trusting person ?

    Really couldn't say. I'd have to see and hear the person speaking in order to determine if I'd believe what they were saying. Body language, tone, inflection, eye movements are HUGE factors.

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