View Poll Results: Should those with self-inflicted ailments be charged more for health care?

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  • Yes, their life choices cost everyone more money

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  • Yes, and higher costs should be expanded to cronic healthcare users (ex:hypochondriac)

    3 15.00%
  • No, everyone should pay the same no matter how much health care you use

    8 40.00%
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    Re: Charge more for healthcare of self-inflicted ailments?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Ok. I'll go Dr. Manhattan style.

    Though I'll try to keep my humanity and not be so emotionally empty.
    But will you refuse to wear clothes and force us to try and look away from your big blue alien penis?

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    Re: Charge more for healthcare of self-inflicted ailments?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Why not? You cost more, you should pay more.
    I have the right to eat what I want. I shouldn't be punished for excercising my rights.


    Education = control now? Those stupid liberals trying to educate people by telling the truth about harmful ingredients. Who do they think they are?

    No, but punitive laws and taxes = control. It's obvious that the American people aren't going to accept the Libbo agenda, willingly. So, the Libbos have no choice, now, but to force their agenda on the country. That's what they're in the process of doing.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Charge more for healthcare of self-inflicted ailments?

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    But will you refuse to wear clothes and force us to try and look away from your big blue alien penis?
    You would think an omnipotent being could afford a nice suit.
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    Re: Charge more for healthcare of self-inflicted ailments?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I have the right to eat what I want. I shouldn't be punished for excercising my rights.
    You're not punished for eating what you want. You are forced to take responsibility for choices by paying health care costs involved with your choice of a unhealthy lifestyle.

    The same logic goes towards welfare. If you choose not to work, the people of this country should NOT have to pay for your choice.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No, but punitive laws and taxes = control. It's obvious that the American people aren't going to accept the Libbo agenda, willingly. So, the Libbos have no choice, now, but to force their agenda on the country. That's what they're in the process of doing.
    Take it to the conspiracy forum.
    Last edited by Gibberish; 10-06-09 at 06:51 PM.
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    Re: Charge more for healthcare of self-inflicted ailments?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    I could see many liberals voting to have smokers, drug users, and drinkers pay more for illnesses caused by their choices. Have you been to California lately? We are one step away from making smokers serving prison time for lighting up within a 100 year radius of any public property.
    Cali sucks right now and is bankrupt.
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    Re: Charge more for healthcare of self-inflicted ailments?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    My OP wasn't a suggestion, it was a question.

    What is stupid about charging people based on their choice of heightened liability? If I get a lot of speeding tickets my car insurance goes up. If I drive safe it stay low. It's not rocket science.

    Oh and by the way, I tend to play devil's advocate so keep your partisan attacks to yourself.
    How do you suggest we police this? Are we gonna spend tax dollars to have food police to police the junk that folks put into their own bodies? How about text police? See someone texting and walking at same time? Lets charge em more cause they could fall down and hurt themselves while texting.

    Where does the madness stop? Be very careful what ya wish for in reguards to wanting more gov. in our lives cause trust me the results will come back to bite you on your ass at some point.
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    Re: Charge more for healthcare of self-inflicted ailments?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Cali sucks right now and is bankrupt.
    California's economy is very dependent on exports. If there are no buyers of goods then the economy will lower. When people start buying again California will be one of the first states to recover.
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    Re: Charge more for healthcare of self-inflicted ailments?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    How do you suggest we police this? Are we gonna spend tax dollars to have food police to police the junk that folks put into their own bodies? How about text police? See someone texting and walking at same time? Lets charge em more cause they could fall down and hurt themselves while texting.

    Where does the madness stop? Be very careful what ya wish for in reguards to wanting more gov. in our lives cause trust me the results will come back to bite you on your ass at some point.
    This has nothing to do with government. This same idea could exist with private health care as well.

    You don't need to police anything. Diagnosis makes the cause obvious.
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    Re: Charge more for healthcare of self-inflicted ailments?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    This has nothing to do with government. This same idea could exist with private health care as well.

    You don't need to police anything. Diagnosis makes the cause obvious.
    Disagree. You can be overweight and eat healthy, can get cancer and be a nonsmoker, etc.
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    Re: Charge more for healthcare of self-inflicted ailments?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Disagree. You can be overweight and eat healthy, can get cancer and be a nonsmoker, etc.
    Yes a person can eat healthy and still be overweight by eating more calories than they burn in a day. But, I'm not talking "overweight". I am talking Obese. How many Obese people become Obese with a healthy diet?

    Keep in mind I am excluding genetic disorders.
    Last edited by Gibberish; 10-09-09 at 12:21 AM.
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