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    Re: Should we remove race and gender identifying questions from all forms & applicati

    The Republicans benefit WAY more from gerrymandering.

    I say get rid of race and gender on all applications. It's not needed.

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    Re: Should we remove race and gender identifying questions from all forms & applicati

    No. I think knowing the sex or race of who you want to hire is your right as a business owner.

    In fact if the business is private they should be able to hire whomever, for whatever reasons they like.

    PS This does not mean it is necessary in all situations. I am only referring to employment in the private sector. Government jobs and public situations: the answer would be yes.
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    Re: Should we remove race and gender identifying questions from all forms & applicati

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    No. I think knowing the sex or race of who you want to hire is your right as a business owner.

    In fact if the business is private they should be able to hire whomever, for whatever reasons they like.

    PS This does not mean it is necessary in all situations. I am only referring to employment in the private sector. Government jobs and public situations: the answer would be yes.
    I strongly disagree on this one. Although this is about impossible to enforce, I don't think it should be legal to not hire someone just because of their race. Even in the private sector. Like I said, this is unenforceable (unless, someone has about 100 employees in an area where the population is diverse, and all are white, in which case it would be clear enough to enforce) but it should be at least the law of the United States that a business owner cannot discriminate based on race.

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    Re: Should we remove race and gender identifying questions from all forms & applicati

    Race ?
    There is but one race, the human race.
    This question would be stupid at best.
    Gender ?
    There are two, the question is pertinent.

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    Re: Should we remove race and gender identifying questions from all forms & applicati

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Race ?

    There are two, the question is pertinent.
    Why is it pertinent on a job application? Please explain.

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    Re: Should we remove race and gender identifying questions from all forms & applicati

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    Should we remove race and gender identifying questions from all forms & applications?

    I believe we should with the exception of gender in gender specific jobs. Why should the government require a person to identify themselves by race or gender when applying for jobs, loans, census, ect? Is this not keeping the idea that we should be identified by such things in our society and also keeping the way society views people differently based on such things?

    It should be irrelevant when applying for anything. A person should base their decision on merits alone and race/gender should not be a factor.
    I don't think it would do anything for gender since most names are usually male names or female names.

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    Re: Should we remove race and gender identifying questions from all forms & applicati

    Quote Originally Posted by pro-bipartisan View Post
    I don't think it would do anything for gender since most names are usually male names or female names.
    You're probably right. It is just one of those things that I think would look more fair. I think that is important.

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    Re: Should we remove race and gender identifying questions from all forms & applicati

    Quote Originally Posted by CompassionateConservative View Post
    I strongly disagree on this one. Although this is about impossible to enforce, I don't think it should be legal to not hire someone just because of their race. Even in the private sector. Like I said, this is unenforceable (unless, someone has about 100 employees in an area where the population is diverse, and all are white, in which case it would be clear enough to enforce) but it should be at least the law of the United States that a business owner cannot discriminate based on race.
    Then you must not agree with personal freedom or private property? If a person cannot choose who they want to work for them in a private business, it is no longer "private."

    It has nothing to do with being enforceable, it has to do with what is yours and not the governments.

    Telling a private business who they can/cannot hire based on color rather than qualifications, or the private owners wants and/or need is in itself discriminatory.

    It sounds like you would also think affirmative action is a good idea?
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    Re: Should we remove race and gender identifying questions from all forms & applicati

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    I do.

    In general, someone is debating when they agree. They are trolling when they disagree effectively.
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    Re: Should we remove race and gender identifying questions from all forms & applicati

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    No. I think knowing the sex or race of who you want to hire is your right as a business owner.

    In fact if the business is private they should be able to hire whomever, for whatever reasons they like.

    PS This does not mean it is necessary in all situations. I am only referring to employment in the private sector. Government jobs and public situations: the answer would be yes.
    Private businesses are normally small...like a family restaurant. IE they only hire family. In which case no application is needed. Any business that hires outside the family is no longer private.

    At least this is my understanding.
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