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    Tobacco Is Illegal In Amsterdam

    Should Tobacco be banned and Marijuana legalized?

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    Why would you ban tobacco while legalizing MJ? That's got to be among the most stupidest questions I've heard in quite awhile.
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    Re: Tobacco Is Illegal In Amsterdam

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Why would you ban tobacco while legalizing MJ? That's got to be among the most stupidest questions I've heard in quite awhile.
    400,000 People are dieing in America from tobacco u idiot and marijuana does not cause any deaths you dumb ass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jr602az View Post
    400,000 People are dieing from tobacco u idiot and marijuana does not cause any deaths you dumb ass.
    Umm...MJ causes cancer too. Which causes death.

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    Marijuana smoke has been found to contain more cancer-causing agents than is found in tobacco smoke. Examination of human lung tissue that had been exposed to marijuana smoke over a long period of time in a laboratory showed cellular changes called metaplasia that are considered precancerous. In laboratory test, the tars from marijuana smoke have produced tumors when applied to animal skin. These studies suggest that it is likely that marijuana may cause cancer if used for a number of years.
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    Other ways that MJ causes death is usually not reported officially because they are reported as "accidents". For example: car accidents due to one of the drivers being high.
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    Re: Tobacco Is Illegal In Amsterdam

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Umm...MJ causes cancer too. Which causes death.

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    Other ways that MJ causes death is usually not reported officially because they are reported as "accidents". For example: car accidents due to one of the drivers being high.

    MJ does not cause any cancer
    MJ helps cure cancer and all disease's

    Watch the video about "Marijuana Driving Test" on YouTube and you will see Proof.

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    Re: Tobacco Is Illegal In Amsterdam

    Quote Originally Posted by jr602az View Post
    MJ does not cause any cancer
    MJ helps cure cancer and all disease's

    Watch the video about "Marijuana Driving Test" on YouTube and you will see Proof.
    MJ does NOT help cure cancer. MJ helps relieve some of the symptoms of anti-cancer drugs. Smoking MJ CAN cause cancer, just like smoking anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jr602az View Post
    MJ does not cause any cancer
    MJ helps cure cancer and all disease's

    Watch the video about "Marijuana Driving Test" on YouTube and you will see Proof.
    You give YouTube I give .gov sites...and personal experiance.

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    In a laboratory study at NIDA's Addiction Research Center in Baltimore that controlled for alcohol's confounding effect, Dr. Heishman tested marijuana's effects on the functional components of driving. Study subjects smoked a marijuana cigarette, waited 10 minutes, then smoked another cigarette. Both cigarettes contained either 0, 1.8, or 3.6 percent THC. Twenty minutes after smoking the cigarettes, the subjects were given a standard sobriety test similar to a roadside sobriety test. The test showed that marijuana significantly impaired their ability to stand on one leg for 30 seconds or touch their finger to their nose. As the dose of THC increased, the subjects swayed more, raised their arms, and had to put their feet down in an attempt to maintain their balance. Subjects also committed 2.5 times more errors when they attempted to touch their nose with their finger.

    The data from these laboratory studies show that marijuana impairs balance and coordination - functional components important to driving - in a dose-related way, said Dr. Heishman. These effects may be related to reported marijuana-induced impairment of automobile driving, he stated.
    A friend of mine that smoked MJ died while driving. He ran off the road and went down a 50 ft cliff side. He had smoked MJ just before leaving to go to work.
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    Re: Tobacco Is Illegal In Amsterdam

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    You give YouTube I give .gov sites...and personal experiance.

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    A friend of mine that smoked MJ died while driving. He ran off the road and went down a 50 ft cliff side. He had smoked MJ just before leaving to go to work.
    I don't mean to be a jerk, but I'm not remotely sympathetic for this death. I'm just relieved that he didn't kill anyone else.

    To answer the question: I would love to see tobacco banned completely. I agree that you can't ban tobacco and legalize marijuana.

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    I don't mean to be a jerk, but I'm not remotely sympathetic for this death. I'm just relieved that he didn't kill anyone else.
    To be honest I'm not either. Yes I'm sorry he died...but I have no sympathy.
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    Re: Tobacco Is Illegal In Amsterdam

    Quote Originally Posted by jr602az View Post
    MJ does not cause any cancer
    MJ helps cure cancer and all disease's

    Watch the video about "Marijuana Driving Test" on YouTube and you will see Proof.
    I would venture to say that around here the majority are on your side with this issue (pro leniency with marijuana usage), but for a wide range of reasons, many which supersede a desire to simply get high legally.

    You are not helping the cause with distortions and fallacies.

    The way to present this argument is honestly, there is no need to distort, it only undermines our position. Leave the propaganda and distortions to the other side, since without even that they have very very little to argue on.
    Last edited by marduc; 10-06-09 at 07:03 AM.

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