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    Re: Tobacco Is Illegal In Amsterdam

    I would have to find the posts, but I've debated this before. MJ ABSOLUTELY impairs one's ability to drive effectively. All legitimate research shows this. From what I recall the two arguments that marijuana users present...both of which are easily refuted are:

    1) Marijuana users report being able to drive better after having smoked.

    This is a ridiculous fallacy. They are impaired and under the influence of a substance and have no ability to assess their driving ability.

    2) Marijuana users report driving more carefully after having smoked.

    This demonstrates that they KNOW their perceptions are impaired; they cannot drive normally...they must take extra care or their driving will be problematic.

    Remember something. Marijuana impairs your perceptions...that's what it is supposed to do. Therefore, one CANNOT behave similarly to one who is not under the influence.
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    Re: Tobacco Is Illegal In Amsterdam

    jr602AZ.. do yourself (and I and many others who are on your side) a favor read up a LOT more on the subject. get away from you tube and propaganda.

    If you have the time to spare search here for threads on the legalization issue.. there are many, and there is a slew of great info right here (if you need help finding them just search my post record)

    LEAP - Law Enforcement Against Prohibition - Cops Say Legalize Drugs <-- read up on the literature available here too, they are a great organization, and they present an excellent case backed with the credibility of being former front line warriors of the failed war on drugs (and btw we have a few of those here too)
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    MJ does NOT help cure cancer. MJ helps relieve some of the symptoms of anti-cancer drugs. Smoking MJ CAN cause cancer, just like smoking anything.

    How can you say that it does not cure cancer? It does cure cancer and i got proof of it.
    Did you know that prescription drugs are coped like the marijuana from the THC.

    The governments has lied to use about the war on drugs because it was all part of racism to arrest all blacks and Mexicans for slavery in prison.

    Marijuana was used in America back in the 1930s for personal and medically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jr602az View Post
    How can you say that it does not cure cancer? It does cure cancer and i got proof of it.
    Did you know that prescription drugs are coped like the marijuana from the THC.

    The governments has lied to use about the war on drugs because it was all part of racism to arrest all blacks and Mexicans for slavery in prison.

    Marijuana was used in America back in the 1930s for personal and medically.

    Yes, there are some intriguing studies that show that THC and other cannabinoids have an anti-tumor effect, this does not change the fact that there are many many other compounds (especially when smoked) that are carcinogens being ingested at the same time.

    Its kind of like eating a side of broccoli with a quarter pounder and large fries and saying "see this isnt going to give me a heart attack"

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    Quote Originally Posted by jr602az View Post
    How can you say that it does not cure cancer? It does cure cancer and i got proof of it.
    I say it doesn't cure cancer because that is accurate. Present your proof so I can dismantle it and show it to be false.


    Did you know that prescription drugs are coped like the marijuana from the THC.
    Re-write this sentence so it is decipherable. I have no idea what you said, here.

    The governments has lied to use about the war on drugs because it was all part of racism to arrest all blacks and Mexicans for slavery in prison.
    Historically, this has some basis of truth. Currently, no.

    Marijuana was used in America back in the 1930s for personal and medically.
    Alcohol has been used for both. Heroin has been used for both. Your comment proves nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    MJ does NOT help cure cancer. MJ helps relieve some of the symptoms of anti-cancer drugs. Smoking MJ CAN cause cancer, just like smoking anything.
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    Re: Tobacco Is Illegal In Amsterdam

    Personally I would support legalizing MJ for purely medical reasons as it does help relieve pain for cancer victims and helps those with diabete's control their blood surgar.

    But for personal use I would say no.

    Ban smoking? Personally I smoke. But would not oppose a complete ban of it. Current bans however are idiotic imo. Either ban it or not. Don't half ass it.

    Ban drinking? Alcohol has such a history that I think that it would be nie impossible to do so and it not be repealed. It has a history that is far older than either tobacco or MJ. As near as I can tell about the only time that there wasn't some form of alcohol around was during the cave man days when they had just discovered fire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Re-write this sentence so it is decipherable. I have no idea what you said, here.
    The THC are Cristal's from the marijuana
    Prescription drugs are coped from the THC

    Prescription drugs don't work because it cusses more damage in your body and kills over 800,000 people per year in America alone.

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    Re: Tobacco Is Illegal In Amsterdam

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Personally I would support legalizing MJ for purely medical reasons as it does help relieve pain for cancer victims and helps those with diabete's control their blood surgar.

    But for personal use I would say no.

    Ban smoking? Personally I smoke. But would not oppose a complete ban of it. Current bans however are idiotic imo. Either ban it or not. Don't half ass it.

    Ban drinking? Alcohol has such a history that I think that it would be nie impossible to do so and it not be repealed. It has a history that is far older than either tobacco or MJ. As near as I can tell about the only time that there wasn't some form of alcohol around was during the cave man days when they had just discovered fire.
    The alcohol history was a failure war but if we banned tobacco and legalize weed then everybody going to be smoking the medical MJ.

    We should banned tobacco but not arrest people for tobacco.
    We should be helping people that are addicted to drugs but the U.S is not doing that.
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    Re: Tobacco Is Illegal In Amsterdam

    Quote Originally Posted by jr602az View Post
    Should Tobacco be banned and Marijuana legalized?

    No, if anything both should be illegal.


    I found a youtube video too. It expresses the real reason why junkies/potheads advocate medicinal marijuana.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nAZi_eUjoU"]YouTube - : Drugs In Your Head : Foamy The Squirrel[/ame]

    in case the youtbe link goes out.
    NEUROTICALLY YOURS CARTOON: DRUGS IN YOUR HEAD
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