View Poll Results: Is The U.S. Economy Improving?

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  • Yes & President Obama deserves some credit.

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  • No & now it's due to President Obama.

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  • Yes & President Obama deserves no credit.

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  • No & it's till due to the mess that President Obama inherited.

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    Re: Is The Economy Improving

    These problems started many many years ago, even before Obama was born, regardless of where he was born.
    Our nation has not progressed as fast as it could have, IMO.
    Maybe I expect too much.
    The education of our young could be far better. Too many teen-agers are graduating from high school without an ability to read their degree.
    Government de-regulation got out of hand.
    People, like 2 year olds, simply need regulation, particularly in money matters.
    I think greed can be "regulated" by higher taxes on the wealthy, but this has to be done carefully.
    In 1949, the tax rate for millionaires was at 91%; source, the almanac; but there were many loopholes.

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    Re: Is The Economy Improving

    The government is not recovering - it is growing though. We need to fuel the job market for real recovery!
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    Re: Is The Economy Improving

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    Re: Is The Economy Improving

    Wall Street is improving. The rest of the economy isn't improving, although it's getting worse at a lessining rate. I think that things would be worse right now if not for the decisions made by Bush and Obama. It remains to be seen, however, what the long term effects of the unfathomable amount of debt we're taking on are. I am not hopeful

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    Re: Is The Economy Improving

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    He was making a point against what he perceives as excess spending now. Did he make the same point when Bush was spending like a drunken sailor too? If he did then he is not being obviously partisan. If he didn't then my point stands. (& "times were not good" when Bush was in office unless you were an Exxon-Mobil executive or the ex-CEO of Haliburton.....Remember..we practically went into the 2nd Great Depression B4 Obama got into office))
    In other words, you made an assumption and argued as if it were true, ignoring Cephus's points about the dangers of massive and prolonged deficits.

    Well, since hes cleared it up for you, why dont you try addressing his points without making an erroneous assumption.

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    Re: Is The Economy Improving

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    In other words, you made an assumption and argued as if it were true, ignoring Cephus's points about the dangers of massive and prolonged deficits.

    Well, since he’s cleared it up for you, why don’t you try addressing his points without making an erroneous assumption.


    I've responded to this many times.... but will again:

    When Obama took office we were on the verge of another Great Depression. ......We aren't anymore & while improvement is slower than we would all like....It is nonetheless improvement & jobs always lags behind which is why the GOP/Fox News is trying to distract us once again by pointing to jobs as the real measure of improvement....It isn't.
    This is not a jobless recovery....My 41 year old daughter is a public school teacher who would be out of a job if it wasn't for Obama injecting money into our economy.
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    Re: Is The Economy Improving

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    When Obama took office we were on the verge of another Great Depression. ......We aren't anymore & while improvement is slower than we would all like....It is nonetheless improvement & jobs always lags behind which is why the GOP/Fox News is trying to distract us once again by pointing to jobs as the real measure of improvement....It isn't.
    We could still be in a depression, all Obama has done is put off the inevitable while pumping imaginary money we don't have into immediate feel-good projects that don't solve anything. He has refused to address the real issues that caused this problem, just like Bush did before him. No political party will ever address the core problems: overspending on a national scale. People don't want to hear they have to be fiscally responsible and live within their means. People don't want to hear that they can't spend more money than they have on luxuries. People don't want to hear that credit needs to be limited to people who have earned it. People want to continue to live in a fantasy world. That's not going to sustain us, sorry. Fundamental changes have to be made, like it or not. Otherwise you're just trying to put off the inevitable until someone else is in office, which is what Bush did and now Obama is doing.

    This is not a jobless recovery....My 41 year old daughter is a public school teacher who would be out of a job if it wasn't for Obama injecting money into our economy.
    Of course it's a jobless recovery, you're not talking about creating new jobs, just artificially propping up existing jobs through borrowing we can't afford to do. The military has been doing it for years, spending money to keep their engineers busy when there's really no need to be wasting the cash. It's a boondoggle, nothing more.
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    Re: Is The Economy Improving

    Whether or not the economy is improving, I guess depends on whether or not you've got a job!

    I work in the transportation industry. I see fewer trucks on the road than 1 year ago, and I don't see as much freight going to places like WalMart, CostCo, ShopKo, and the other big retailers.

    However, I looked at my paycheck for today and my YTD gross is only $275 less than at this time last year (10/9/08).

    I am beginning to see more trucks hauling building materials - plywood, lumber, sheetrock - than in the past 4-6 months, so maybe the economy is slowly improving.
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    Re: Is The Economy Improving

    Yes my thoughts are that the economy is slowly improving and Obama deserves credit for it.

    We should thank him for atleast attempting to revive this ridiculous-ass country full of f*cking idiots. Unfortunately Americans are too damn distracted trying to finish their ice-cream sandwiches and steak burgers to even notice anything positive from the government anymore.


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