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    Re: Is The Economy Improving

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    That doesn't change anything. We started doing it seriously after WWII when we became a world power by default, we had never been attacked and we had an incredible infrastructure that we built to fight the war. After the war, lots of people had lots of money and we spent like mad. The problem is, when the situation changed, when we were no long the undisputed #1 nation, we still kept spending like drunken sailors. It's one thing to spend extra when times are good, it's another to expect everyone to keep spending like there's no tomorrow when times are bad and that's exactly what we've been doing for years. In fact, in the past 40 years, we've built our entire national economy on people spending more than they had and now it's coming home to roost.

    Any recovery we have that doesn't include a permanent reduction in our overspending is only putting off the inevitable.
    Sorry but when I hear all the GOP/Fox News railing against spending & deficits, I chalk it up to pure partisan politics. The people who never voiced any concern about how we were going to pay for U.S. policies for the last 8 years have suddenly found their (long-lost) fiscal responsibility....... just in time to oppose a Democratic President?....I say BS

    All government spending is not the same & we are finally spending on things that will actually help middle class Americans.
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    Re: Is The Economy Improving

    Alot depends on your definition of improve. Do I feel things are getting better? No. However I do see less of the bad. I also feel that we are going to find alot of proping up has been going on behind the sceens and this may catch up with us in the future.

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    Re: Is The Economy Improving

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Sorry but when I hear all the GOP/Fox News railing against spending & deficits, I chalk it up to pure partisan politics. The people who never voiced any concern about how we were going to pay for U.S. policies for the last 8 years have suddenly found their (long-lost) fiscal responsibility....... just in time to oppose a Democratic President?....I say BS

    All government spending is not the same & we are finally spending on things that will actually help middle class Americans.
    What does this have to do with Cephus or his point?

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    I don't think it's improving. My brother in law just got laid off from his work.
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    Re: Is The Economy Improving

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    What does this have to do with Cephus or his point?
    He was making a point against what he perceives as excess spending now. Did he make the same point when Bush was spending like a drunken sailor too? If he did then he is not being obviously partisan. If he didn't then my point stands. (& "times were not good" when Bush was in office unless you were an Exxon-Mobil executive or the ex-CEO of Haliburton.....Remember..we practically went into the 2nd Great Depression B4 Obama got into office))
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    Re: Is The Economy Improving

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Sorry but when I hear all the GOP/Fox News railing against spending & deficits, I chalk it up to pure partisan politics. The people who never voiced any concern about how we were going to pay for U.S. policies for the last 8 years have suddenly found their (long-lost) fiscal responsibility....... just in time to oppose a Democratic President?....I say BS

    All government spending is not the same & we are finally spending on things that will actually help middle class Americans.
    Or for those of us who strongly opposed it when Bush did it too? I've vocally opposed government overspending for more than 25 years now, back to the Reagan days when he massively increased our national debt "fighting them commies".

    Obama isn't the savior and he's certainly not doing anything to help the middle class, he's bankrupting the country. Granted, we're not going to have to pay for it, that'll fall to our children and grandchildren and who cares about them anyhow, right?
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    Re: Is The Economy Improving

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Sorry but when I hear all the GOP/Fox News railing against spending & deficits, I chalk it up to pure partisan politics. The people who never voiced any concern about how we were going to pay for U.S. policies for the last 8 years have suddenly found their (long-lost) fiscal responsibility....... just in time to oppose a Democratic President?....I say BS

    All government spending is not the same & we are finally spending on things that will actually help middle class Americans.
    I'm a middle class American and I've yet to see any money spent to help the middle class.

    The money spent so far has been to fund Liberal wet dreams such as deer under passes and turtle tunnels and to fund entitlement programs. Nothing in there for the middle class.
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    Re: Is The Economy Improving

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Sorry but when I hear all the GOP/Fox News railing against spending & deficits, I chalk it up to pure partisan politics. The people who never voiced any concern about how we were going to pay for U.S. policies for the last 8 years have suddenly found their (long-lost) fiscal responsibility....... just in time to oppose a Democratic President?....I say BS

    All government spending is not the same & we are finally spending on things that will actually help middle class Americans.
    And like wise, all the guys on the left that were bitching and crying for 8 years about spending & deficits now telling us its okay, its needed, and we should ignore it despite it being EVEN LARGER under Obama are ALSO chalked up to pure partisan politics.

    "But but but...its DIFFFFFFERENT" you say?

    Guess what, the right says its different too, but you don't take their reasoning, so why is yours all that different?

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    Re: Is The Economy Improving

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Or for those of us who strongly opposed it when Bush did it too?
    Then this thread is not aimed at you. You are consistent & not a partisan.



    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Obama isn't the savior and he's certainly not doing anything to help the middle class, he's bankrupting the country. Granted, we're not going to have to pay for it, that'll fall to our children and grandchildren and who cares about them anyhow, right?
    No one is claiming Obama is a savior except Fox News & I disagree with your opinions about Obama not helping the middle class & bankrupting our country.
    Here's the guy you are thinking of: (the guy on the left)
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    Re: Is The Economy Improving

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Then this thread is not aimed at you. You are consistent & not a partisan.




    No one is claiming Obama is a savior except Fox News & I disagree with your opinions about Obama not helping the middle class & bankrupting our country.
    Here's the guy you are thinking of: (the guy on the left)
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