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Kal'Stang

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Are you glad that the Olympics is not going to be held in Chicago? Or not?

Personally I'm glad. I really don't want one of the worst crime ridden cities representing our country. I would have preferred some place like Oklahoma City as it is considered the heart of our country.

Doh forgot to add the poll. And can't figure out how to edit it to where there is one. :p Could a mod add one please? Just a Yes, No, Other for the options would be good. :) Thanks in advance. :)
 
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Kal'Stang said:
Are you glad that the Olympics is not going to be held in Chicago? Or not? Personally I'm glad. I really don't want one of the worst crime ridden cities representing our country.
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Chicago is not one of the worst crime ridden cities in America. It's nowhere near the top of the list. The most dangerous big cities are Detroit, St. Louis, Memphis, Oakland, Baltimore, Atlanta, Nashville, Minneapolis, Miami, and Philadelphia.

Chicago's crime rate is about average, compared to other big US cities. And it's certainly much safer than Rio (which is not to say that Rio was a bad selection).

Kal'Stang said:
I would have preferred some place like Oklahoma City as it is considered the heart of our country.
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Meh...probably too inaccessible. There aren't many other big cities nearby. Besides, does a place like Oklahoma City and its surrounding locales really have the capacity for the huge influx in tourists that having the Olympics would bring?
 
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Kal'Stang said:
Are you glad that the Olympics is not going to be held in Chicago? Or not?

Personally I'm glad. I really don't want one of the worst crime ridden cities representing our country. I would have preferred some place like Oklahoma City as it is considered the heart of our country.

Doh forgot to add the poll. And can't figure out how to edit it to where there is one. :p Could a mod add one please? Just a Yes, No, Other for the options would be good. :) Thanks in advance. :)
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What makes OKC the heart of our country?
 
where's the poll?

As for me, I don't care. I've been to Chicago once, it's nothing to write home about. NYC is a million times cooler and more fun.
 
I'm glad mainly because it shows that America doesn't always need to get what it wants, its about time it was in South America, that too Rio.

Chicago is my favorite town in the U.S. but its no f*cking Olympic city.
 
Speaking as someone who is living in the city of the 2010 Olympics, the people of Chicago should be glad that they dodged a financial bullet like this. The Olympics are a banquet for the rich, usually at the expense of tax payers under the guise of 'infrastructure' projects, and it's the tax payers who shoulder the burden of the debt for years to come.

If you lookup the past 5-6 Olympic cities - and especially those for the summer olympics - they took decades to pay off their debt from the Olympics.
 
I'm glad since I was rooting for Rio from the beginning, and they indeed won. :)
 
Kal'Stang said:
Are you glad that the Olympics is not going to be held in Chicago? Or not?

Personally I'm glad. I really don't want one of the worst crime ridden cities representing our country. I would have preferred some place like Oklahoma City as it is considered the heart of our country.

Doh forgot to add the poll. And can't figure out how to edit it to where there is one. :p Could a mod add one please? Just a Yes, No, Other for the options would be good. :) Thanks in advance. :)
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It seems to me that in a year where people are struggling economically, Chicago has better things to spend their money on that this.
 
Kandahar said:
Chicago is not one of the worst crime ridden cities in America. It's nowhere near the top of the list. The most dangerous big cities are Detroit, St. Louis, Memphis, Oakland, Baltimore, Atlanta, Nashville, Minneapolis, Miami, and Philadelphia.
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You forgot Camden.
 
I'm glad. The Olympics should be held in countries that have not had them or had them only once. It should help to improve relations with politically "smaller" countries.
 
So, are they going to have the Summer Olympics in their summer or during the Northern Hemisphere summer?
 
I'm not sure the weather there, but I would imagine that it would be during an actual summer as they are the summer games.

For me, I don't really care all that much. I think Chicago dodged a bullet in terms of money to be spent and new levels of corruption (don't think there are land deals going on and there isn't corruption). I mean, if they did get them I'm sure the city itself would be happy. Just don't send anyone to the south side. But in the end, it doesn't matter too much. The Olympics are a money pit and people only marginally care about them.
 
Ikari said:
I'm not sure the weather there, but I would imagine that it would be during an actual summer as they are the summer games.

For me, I don't really care all that much. I think Chicago dodged a bullet in terms of money to be spent and new levels of corruption (don't think there are land deals going on and there isn't corruption). I mean, if they did get them I'm sure the city itself would be happy. Just don't send anyone to the south side. But in the end, it doesn't matter too much. The Olympics are a money pit and people only marginally care about them.
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Olympics offer ****loads of jobs to the host city's population.
 
Dodged an expensive bullet.

I heard one argument for having the olympics in Chicago was that Chicago has already demolished low-income housing like Cabrini-Green and so the necessary "face-lift" would be less costly.

Lula, on the other hand, has pledged that some of the Olympic construction would become low-income housing post Olympics. I am rooting for Brazil
 
Cassandra said:
I heard one argument for having the olympics in Chicago was that Chicago has already demolished low-income housing like Cabrini-Green and so the necessary "face-lift" would be less costly.
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What's interesting about demolishing low income housing is that it doesn't demolish the low income. It just forces them out into new areas.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
What's interesting about demolishing low income housing is that it doesn't demolish the low income. It just forces them out into new areas.
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Chicago already did this once too. They moved a bunch of people out of Chicago and into the rest of Illinois to make room for a golf course. Major of Bloomington somehow ended up with a sweet deal on some great property in Chicago and by coincidence many of the housing vouchers Chicago gave to its poor people to get the hell out moved them to Bloomington, IL.
 
Ikari said:
Chicago already did this once too. They moved a bunch of people out of Chicago and into the rest of Illinois to make room for a golf course. Major of Bloomington somehow ended up with a sweet deal on some great property in Chicago and by coincidence many of the housing vouchers Chicago gave to its poor people to get the hell out moved them to Bloomington, IL.
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And then, Bloomington's gang violence rates shot skyhigh.

SCORE! Excellent plan.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
And then, Bloomington's gang violence rates shot skyhigh.

SCORE! Excellent plan.
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Yup. My parents still live there, and their suburb was next to a new low income housing complex. A few weeks after the whole Chicago thing moving their poor people out, my parents home was robbed (thankfully they were out of town, so they couldn't have gotten hurt). First time pretty much ever. It's great that Chicago is exporting their crime to rural Illinois. Shows how great a government that city has.

Don't get me wrong, I do love Chicago. Huge Cubs and Bears fan, the city itself is great. Awesome culture (museums, aquariums, parks, etc), the people are pretty cool, it's just a nice place (if you're not driving). But the government...the government is amongst the worst in the entire Republic. Corrupt all the way through, and the Olympics...there would have been a lot of rich people in Chicago who would become slightly richer because of it. Though most people would just have to pony up taxpayer dollars to fund that.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
You forgot Camden.
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Kandahar said:
Chicago is not one of the worst crime ridden cities in America. It's nowhere near the top of the list. The most dangerous big cities are Detroit, St. Louis, Memphis, Oakland, Baltimore, Atlanta, Nashville, Minneapolis, Miami, and Philadelphia.
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I was using >250,000 people as my definition of a "big city."
 
According to Forbes Magazine, the most dangerous cities in America in 2009. Chicago doesn't even make the list.

1. Detroit, MI
2. Memphis, TN
3. Miami, FL
4. Las Vegas, NV
5. Stockton, CA
6. Orlando, FL
7. Little Rock, AR
8. Charleston, SC
9. Nashville, TN
10. Baltimore, MD
11. New Orleans, LA
12. Baton Rouge, LA
13. West Palm Beach, Florida
14. Charlotte, NC
15. Philadelphia

America's Most Dangerous Cities - Forbes.com
 
The United States hosts a great deal of these things, so I don't really see the need to do so.
 
Kal'Stang said:
Are you glad that the Olympics is not going to be held in Chicago? Or not?

Personally I'm glad. I really don't want one of the worst crime ridden cities representing our country. I would have preferred some place like Oklahoma City as it is considered the heart of our country.

Doh forgot to add the poll. And can't figure out how to edit it to where there is one. :p Could a mod add one please? Just a Yes, No, Other for the options would be good. :) Thanks in advance. :)
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I do not watch the olympics and kind of feel that this a globalist event and I oppose globalism. So I could care less what city gets pick. On the other hand it would mean a lot of tourist dollars to the city that has the Olympics in it.

I also think it is rather idiotic to gloat over the fact Obama couldn't get the Olympics to Chicago, that is like gloating over a republican who got a parking ticket or Dick Cheney getting into a hunting accident. If Obama doesn't pass any socialized medicine, fails to pull the troops out of Iraq or Afghanistan ,fails to close Gitmo or fails to give amnesty to illegals then that would be something to gloat over because those are things that will have an impact if he succeeds.
 
Kandahar said:
Chicago is not one of the worst crime ridden cities in America. It's nowhere near the top of the list. The most dangerous big cities are Detroit, St. Louis, Memphis, Oakland, Baltimore, Atlanta, Nashville, Minneapolis, Miami, and Philadelphia.
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While it might not be in the top 10 it certainly isn't close to the bottom.

From Aug. 27, 2009 – Sept. 26, 2009 there were 33,155 crimes committed. Not exactly a city that I would like to visit or represent our country.

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Kandahar said:
Meh...probably too inaccessible. There aren't many other big cities nearby. Besides, does a place like Oklahoma City and its surrounding locales really have the capacity for the huge influx in tourists that having the Olympics would bring?
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Don't really know if it has the capacity or not. But it was just my suggestion. :)

Someone asked why I called it "the heart of America". Reason is that that is what it is called. Much like Chicago is called "The Windy City" Oklahoma is called "The Heartland of the US". Don't know why it is called thus. I just know that it is.
 
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