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Do you enjoy bull**** ?

Do You Enjoy being fed Bull**** ?

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If Thomas Jefferson was a 9/11 truthers I'd have just as little respect for him as for all other 9/11 truthers.

actually if he lived today he would be a homegrown terrorist.

and the question to ask is - would YOU have HIS respect ?

probably not.
 
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When? Was it after the forum pointed out how entirely retarded they were?

no slightly before that. in 2007 or so.

this forum is no authority to me. my intelligence is superior to that of this forum minus myself when viewed as a whole.

i alone, as a poster on this board, am greater than the forum itself.
 
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yes genes have been naturally modified for millenia. that's why an apple is different from a potato. that's why if you go to a supermarket and ask for a potato you expect a potato not an apple.

No, that's evolution. I'm talking about the fact that HUMANS have purposely modified genes for millennia. That's why cows produce so much milk. That's why a corn stalk produces so much more food than teosinte. That's why you don't die from cyanide poisoning when you eat almonds.

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but with GM foods you ask for one thing and get another. because Monsanto paid the government to make sure the packaging doesn't say that you're getting a genetically MODIFIED version of the product.

Because that would be a completely meaningless distinction, since almost ALL naturally occurring foods have been genetically modified.

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research showed that genetically modified foods have negative side effects not found in their nonmodified counterparts.

I would like to see the "research" that conclusively shows this. And please cite research that studies ALL genetic modifications, and not some specific change in one specific food.
 
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you make a good point about Rumsfeld and his "you go to war with the army you have not the army you wish you had" bull****. but from there on your post turns into complete garbage as usual.

if you don't want to commit the resources to do it right ... then don't do it !

its simple !

and yes babysitting Saddam is bad and overthrowing him is bad as well. why do you see a contradiction here ? what makes you think that we had to choose between one or the other ?

we didn't have to sell chemical and biological weapons to him and we didn't have to hang him. we didn't have to do ****. everything we did was for the worst as always because people like you think you have a brain.

meanwhile Libertarians have a simple solution - do nothing. it works perfectly but is never implemented because not enough people have a high enough IQ to understand that doing nothing is also an option.

Like it or not, Hussein was our problem. Leaving him to invade his neighbors was not an option. Optioning to maintain him despite it being an excuse for every madman that wants to murder Americans was no longer an option.

Doing nothing is exactly why we have fought in greater wars. Doing nothing is why local genocides and ethnic cleansings have crossed borders and caused more damage than it needed to. You live the life you live because our trades across the globe are protected. These trades and trade routes are kept secure because our influences and allies in regions help us make it so. So when you fool yourself into thinking this genocide or that ethnic cleansing or this dictator or that religious regime is none of your business, real men are making sure that they are behaving correctly for you so that they do not disturb country X, which is supplying your special brand of tube socks or coffee bean or computer chip. And when they do not behave year after year and terrorists use our immoral deeds against us, we have an obligation to deal with it. You complain that we didn't have to sell Hussein chemicals. Are you even aware that our role in this arms support during the Iraq/Iran war was less than 5 percent in relation to everybody else? That the largest three by far were the Soviet Union, China, and France? Perhaps they too saw Khomeini's stated quest to march to Cairo as a threat to oil production? You cheered the invasion of Iraq for your cheaper gas, but criticize our role in the Iran/Iraq war to protect oil production? Seems you are more confused about what you are or believe in than you even know.

Doing nothing is for the coward who hopes everything will fix itself or that his life will magically be preserved via fairies. Just sit back and flip channels hero.
 
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No, that's evolution. I'm talking about the fact that HUMANS have modified genes for millennia. That's why cows produce so much milk. That's why a corn stalk produces so much more food than teosinte. That's why you don't die from the poison when you eat almonds.



Because that would be a completely meaningless distinction, since almost ALL naturally occurring foods have been genetically modified.



I would like to see the "research" that conclusively shows this. And please cite research that studies ALL genetic modifications, and not some specific change in one specific food.

The ironic part about it is that he probably eats GM foods all the time.
 
No, that's evolution. I'm talking about the fact that HUMANS have purposely modified genes for millennia. That's why cows produce so much milk. That's why a corn stalk produces so much more food than teosinte. That's why you don't die from cyanide poisoning when you eat almonds.



Because that would be a completely meaningless distinction, since almost ALL naturally occurring foods have been genetically modified.



I would like to see the "research" that conclusively shows this. And please cite research that studies ALL genetic modifications, and not some specific change in one specific food.

cows produce more milk because they're injected hormones. thats also why their milk is full of PUS unlike normal milk.

but you love drinking PUS so i am sure you don't mind.

foods have been BRED for certain properties. breeding is relatively more natural than bombarding something with gold sputtered DNA fragments i would think.

as for the research - google is your friend. i am not your slave.
 
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Optioning to maintain him despite it being an excuse for every madman that wants to murder Americans was no longer an option.

mad men don't need excuses. it's american politicians that do.

stop trying to link Iraq to 9-11. there is no connection whether it was an inside job or not.
 
cows produce more milk because they're injected hormones. thats also why their milk is full of PUS unlike normal milk.

No, I mean why do cows have such large utters in the first place, as opposed to any other mammal? Because they have been genetically modified by humans for millennia.

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foods have been BRED for certain properties. breeding is relatively more natural than bombarding something with gold sputtered DNA fragments i would think.

What's the difference? In either case you are modifying the genes to produce a more desirable product.

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as for the research - google is your friend. i am not your slave.

In other words, you have no evidence to support your claim.
 
What's the difference? In either case you are modifying the genes to produce a more desirable product.

the difference is in one case a technology has been tested for hundreds of years and consumers have picked the product they prefer. in another case the technology is experimental and consumer is not given a choice.

i am not against the technology. i am against the infiltration of FDA by Monsanto people. i am against the political lobbying to deny consumer the right to choose.

when i am buying beans i want to have a choice - regular beans or monsanto beans. just like i have a choice between different kinds of apples today.
 
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it's not ironic. its tragic.

70% of all food we eat contains GM food in it. and 0% of it is labelled.

I don't ****ing care. I drink beer. I smoke weed. I eat red meat. I have risky sex. GM foods aren't really something I give a **** about.
 
Virtually everything that you eat was GM. You aren't typing this from an isolated hunter-gatherer tribe in New Guinea, are you?
 
mad men don't need excuses. it's american politicians that do.

stop trying to link Iraq to 9-11. there is no connection whether it was an inside job or not.

Oh good god. You are aware that Osama Bin Laden himself linked 9/11 to what has occurred in Iraq over the prior 12 years? Along with other "justifications?" He used our actions in the region in his letter of justification for why we deserved to be attacked. And the "escalation of infidels (troops) in the heartland of the Prophet" had everyhing to do with our UN mission in Iraq that saw the "starving Muslim children of Iraq." But don't think for one minute that he actually cared about any non-Arab Muslim in Iraq because he could care less about the senseless tribal slaughter of non-Arabs in Sudan when he was a guest of Bashir. But the truth is that he got the Iraq part right.

The great philosophical default position for people who can't think for themselves is that "mad men don't need excuses." This reply is ignorant and smacks of denial. It's a way for people to escape uncomfortable truths and a way that allows them to wander about ignorant as if there is no understanding this. Too hard to figure out? Just dismiss it by stating that 9/11 happened simply because it happened right? The fact is that every mad man in history has had "excuses." Even serial killers often have "excuses."

This doesn't take a genius to figure through. Just someone willing to exercise a little thought into the matter.
 
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This doesn't take a genius to figure through. Just someone willing to exercise a little thought into the matter.

I think you isolated the problem here.
 
I don't ****ing care. I drink beer. I smoke weed. I eat red meat. I have risky sex. GM foods aren't really something I give a **** about.

well i do hard drugs like amphetamines. i used to drink hard liquor. i have used steroids. i eat tons of meat ( but only lean cuts ). i don't use condoms. and i don't buy organic food.

but i still would like a choice in what i eat. a choice is all i want. maybe i will choose GM food if it is cheaper - or maybe not. but i want to have that choice. isn't being able to choose the meaning of freedom ?
 
I think you isolated the problem here.

Who even is this guy? He's all over the map. In one post he declares himself upset because Iraq wasn't about oil in which he suppported then in another he complains that we supported Hussein against Khomeini, which preserved the stability of oil flow in the region.

I don't think he knows where he is coming from or even what he even stands for.
 
well i do hard drugs like amphetamines.

That is straight retarded.

i used to drink hard liquor. i have used steroids. i eat tons of meat ( but only lean cuts ). i don't use condoms. and i don't buy organic food.

but i still would like a choice in what i eat. a choice is all i want. maybe i will choose GM food if it is cheaper - or maybe not. but i want to have that choice. isn't being able to choose the meaning of freedom ?

What evidence do you have that GM foods are actually dangerous!? I mean, you're doing amphetamines but you're pissing your pants about a damn tomato? You just sound silly.
 
well i do hard drugs like amphetamines. i used to drink hard liquor. i have used steroids. i eat tons of meat ( but only lean cuts ). i don't use condoms. and i don't buy organic food.

but i still would like a choice in what i eat. a choice is all i want. maybe i will choose GM food if it is cheaper - or maybe not. but i want to have that choice. isn't being able to choose the meaning of freedom ?

Most people choose to go to Organic food stores if they so desire. That would be that freedom thing you just tried to whine about not having.
 
Oh good god. You are aware that Osama Bin Laden himself linked 9/11 to what has occurred in Iraq over the prior 12 years? Along with other "justifications?" He used our actions in the region in his letter of justification for why we deserved to be attacked. And the "escalation of infidels (troops) in the heartland of the Prophet" had everyhing to do with our UN mission in Iraq that saw the "starving Muslim children of Iraq." But don't think for one minute that he actually cared about any non-Arab Muslim in Iraq because he could care less about the senseless tribal slaughter of non-Arabs in Sudan when he was a guest of Bashir. But the truth is that he got the Iraq part right.

The great philosophical default position for people who can't think for themselves is that "mad men don't need excuses." This reply is ignorant and smacks of denial. It's a way for people to escape uncomfortable truths and a way that allows them to wander about ignorant as if there is no understanding this. Too hard to figure out? Just dismiss it by stating that 9/11 happened simply because it happened right? The fact is that every mad man in history has had "excuses." Even serial killers often have "excuses."

This doesn't take a genius to figure through. Just someone willing to exercise a little thought into the matter.

fair enough. but what PRECISELY is it about our handling of Iraq that OBL was protesting against ? i am sure it wasn't our unwillingness to invade it ...
 
well i do hard drugs like amphetamines. i used to drink hard liquor. i have used steroids. i eat tons of meat ( but only lean cuts ). i don't use condoms. and i don't buy organic food.

but i still would like a choice in what i eat. a choice is all i want. maybe i will choose GM food if it is cheaper - or maybe not. but i want to have that choice. isn't being able to choose the meaning of freedom ?

So...you are concerned about what steroid or other substance may be in your food, but drug out and use steroids anyway? Oh the freedom to choose...do I shoot up or do I just ingest my steroids.

Like I stated, you don't know what you stand for. You are just complaining about nothing and swerving no purpose.
 
well i do hard drugs like amphetamines.

That explains a lot of things. They've obviously ****ed with your ability to form a rational thought. Maybe you wouldn't be so paranoid if you stopped using drugs.
 
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What evidence do you have that GM foods are actually dangerous!? I mean, you're doing amphetamines but you're pissing your pants about a damn tomato? You just sound silly.

i have never bothered to look for the evidence, but i encourage you to do so and report back your findings to us.

as far as amphetamines vs tomatoes - a little amphetamines when you're driving drunk can make the difference between getting home and spending the night in jail for falling asleep behind the wheel and driving into a wall.

the problem with GM foods is that there is no benefit to consumer except MAYBE lower cost. but if GM foods really cost less then people would buy them anyway - what does Monsanto have to fear ?

the very fact that Monsanto had to pay off people in FDA to avoid the label means that nobody would buy the crap with the label in place. that's the difference.

people know that alcohol and drugs are bad for them and they CHOOSE to use them anyway. but nobody CHOOSES to eat GM foods. that is the difference.
 
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