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    Re: Do you enjoy bull**** ?

    Quote Originally Posted by NEUROSPORT View Post
    well i do hard drugs like amphetamines. i used to drink hard liquor. i have used steroids. i eat tons of meat ( but only lean cuts ). i don't use condoms. and i don't buy organic food.

    but i still would like a choice in what i eat. a choice is all i want. maybe i will choose GM food if it is cheaper - or maybe not. but i want to have that choice. isn't being able to choose the meaning of freedom ?
    Most people choose to go to Organic food stores if they so desire. That would be that freedom thing you just tried to whine about not having.

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    Re: Do you enjoy bull**** ?

    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    Oh good god. You are aware that Osama Bin Laden himself linked 9/11 to what has occurred in Iraq over the prior 12 years? Along with other "justifications?" He used our actions in the region in his letter of justification for why we deserved to be attacked. And the "escalation of infidels (troops) in the heartland of the Prophet" had everyhing to do with our UN mission in Iraq that saw the "starving Muslim children of Iraq." But don't think for one minute that he actually cared about any non-Arab Muslim in Iraq because he could care less about the senseless tribal slaughter of non-Arabs in Sudan when he was a guest of Bashir. But the truth is that he got the Iraq part right.

    The great philosophical default position for people who can't think for themselves is that "mad men don't need excuses." This reply is ignorant and smacks of denial. It's a way for people to escape uncomfortable truths and a way that allows them to wander about ignorant as if there is no understanding this. Too hard to figure out? Just dismiss it by stating that 9/11 happened simply because it happened right? The fact is that every mad man in history has had "excuses." Even serial killers often have "excuses."

    This doesn't take a genius to figure through. Just someone willing to exercise a little thought into the matter.
    fair enough. but what PRECISELY is it about our handling of Iraq that OBL was protesting against ? i am sure it wasn't our unwillingness to invade it ...

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    Re: Do you enjoy bull**** ?

    Quote Originally Posted by NEUROSPORT View Post
    well i do hard drugs like amphetamines. i used to drink hard liquor. i have used steroids. i eat tons of meat ( but only lean cuts ). i don't use condoms. and i don't buy organic food.

    but i still would like a choice in what i eat. a choice is all i want. maybe i will choose GM food if it is cheaper - or maybe not. but i want to have that choice. isn't being able to choose the meaning of freedom ?
    So...you are concerned about what steroid or other substance may be in your food, but drug out and use steroids anyway? Oh the freedom to choose...do I shoot up or do I just ingest my steroids.

    Like I stated, you don't know what you stand for. You are just complaining about nothing and swerving no purpose.

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    Re: Do you enjoy bull**** ?

    Quote Originally Posted by NEUROSPORT View Post
    well i do hard drugs like amphetamines.
    That explains a lot of things. They've obviously ****ed with your ability to form a rational thought. Maybe you wouldn't be so paranoid if you stopped using drugs.
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    Re: Do you enjoy bull**** ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    What evidence do you have that GM foods are actually dangerous!? I mean, you're doing amphetamines but you're pissing your pants about a damn tomato? You just sound silly.
    i have never bothered to look for the evidence, but i encourage you to do so and report back your findings to us.

    as far as amphetamines vs tomatoes - a little amphetamines when you're driving drunk can make the difference between getting home and spending the night in jail for falling asleep behind the wheel and driving into a wall.

    the problem with GM foods is that there is no benefit to consumer except MAYBE lower cost. but if GM foods really cost less then people would buy them anyway - what does Monsanto have to fear ?

    the very fact that Monsanto had to pay off people in FDA to avoid the label means that nobody would buy the crap with the label in place. that's the difference.

    people know that alcohol and drugs are bad for them and they CHOOSE to use them anyway. but nobody CHOOSES to eat GM foods. that is the difference.
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    Re: Do you enjoy bull**** ?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    Virtually everything that you eat was GM. You aren't typing this from an isolated hunter-gatherer tribe in New Guinea, are you?
    However not everything was specifically engineered by scientists in the same way. GM foods are the epitome of human hubris, we take something that has taken millenia to develop and very quickly meddle with it when we even admit we don't know far from everything about genetics.

    Now I don't know much about direct negative effects but the ecological damage such could do is obviously immense.
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    Re: Do you enjoy bull**** ?

    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    Most people choose to go to Organic food stores if they so desire. That would be that freedom thing you just tried to whine about not having.
    the way organic foods are certified changes all the time. i don't bother to keep track of the changes so i don't know whether GM foods can get certified as organic or not.

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    Re: Do you enjoy bull**** ?

    Quote Originally Posted by NEUROSPORT View Post
    fair enough. but what PRECISELY is it about our handling of Iraq that OBL was protesting against ? i am sure it wasn't our unwillingness to invade it ...
    Didn't you just tell Kandahar to use google because you are not his slave?

    I'm better than this though.

    OBL protested the "starving children of Iraq." He protested our presence in the region (especially Saudi Arabia), which escallated every time Hussein played his games. He protested many things, most of which were entirely exaggerated. But let's look at Hussein....

    1) He invaded two neighboring countries and threatened stability in the oil rich region.

    2) He continuously threatened his neighbors even as late as 2002 when he flew military jets over Saudi and Jordanian air space.

    3) He defied the UN over and over again and kicked inspectors out repeatedly, which gave him the reputation that he can do anything and not even the U.S. could do anything about it.

    4) He caused mass humanitarian crisis' within his borders before and long after the Gulf War causing us to either enter the country for humanitarian reasons or merely watch as if his "soveriegnty" mattered more than anything.

    This was not a man to be simply left alone in a region where the entire world needs stability. And he was not a man we should have left in power causing us to dig deeper and deeper into the mess over the twelve years prior to 2003. You care about your fuel, but can't fathom the instability that would have come with Saddam Hussein freed in the region? Doing nothing was not an option.

    Our greatest trades and business ties are with democratic nations. Our worst are with what we see in the Middle East. If we are to truly rid ourselves of the "excuses" that mad men look for to murder Americans then we have to address this region in which we are attached to. A democratic Iraq is quite possibly the last hope for this region to move forward beyond what it is today. The alternative is to watch a radical religiously fueled nuclear Middle East rise.

    And what will that do to your gas prices? Instead of complaining about the smaller wars, maybe you should imagine the much larger ones we are trying to prevent. Just like we have done since WWII. Only now in the post Cold War we have the luxury of not enlisting dictators and religious monsters that will merely stab us in the back later.

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    Re: Do you enjoy bull**** ?

    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    So...you are concerned about what steroid or other substance may be in your food, but drug out and use steroids anyway? Oh the freedom to choose...do I shoot up or do I just ingest my steroids.

    Like I stated, you don't know what you stand for. You are just complaining about nothing and swerving no purpose.
    just because you know what you stand for doesn't mean you're right.

    i would rather be right and doubt myself than be wrong and dead certain.
    Last edited by NEUROSPORT; 10-03-09 at 02:56 AM.

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    Re: Do you enjoy bull**** ?

    Quote Originally Posted by NEUROSPORT View Post
    just because you know what you stand for doesn't mean you're right.

    i prefer to stay open minded and intellectually flexible.

    i would rather be right and doubt myself than be wrong and dead certain.
    No, you prefer to complain about everything, make no real decisions, blame someone else for not telling you what you need to know, and then hypocrit out anyway.

    1) Complaining about what in your food may be harmful to your body, but happily acknowledging drug use?

    2) Complaining about Iraq not being about oil, but complaining that we supported Hussein in the 80s even though it was about preserving oil production stability?

    I think you can be certain that you don't know what you believe in and are easily swayed from one headline to the next.

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