View Poll Results: Which Libertarian Issues Do You Agree With

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  • Laissez Faire capitalism

    19 38.78%
  • End drug prohibition

    37 75.51%
  • avid interventionism in foreign policy

    17 34.69%
  • End foreign aid

    25 51.02%
  • End gun bans

    31 63.27%
  • Deregulate healthcare

    19 38.78%
  • Semi-amnesty for illegal aliens(work for amnesty)

    17 34.69%
  • End welfare

    20 40.82%
  • Allow opting out of Social Security

    28 57.14%
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    Re: Libertarian Issues

    I'd support Allow opting out of Social Security and deregulating healthcare right off the bat.

    The rest, as stated, are too vague or far for me to accept. Tone them down and clarify and I'd likely accept all of them.

    For instance, free market capitalism cannot exist in the absence of regulation required to maintain the free market.

    Some drugs probably should remain illegal, such as cocaine. But some like weed should be decriminalized. But the better notion is not to ban things, but to educate to destroy the demand. Why legislate when the market has tanked?

    Was the intervention option a mistake? Last I checked, liberterians aren't for nation building

    Some foreign aid needs to die. Now. But some, such as for development is worthy. Not to mention military aid.

    Gun bans. What kind of gun bans? Bans that prevent mentally ill people with illusions and voices telling them to kill everyone? Yeah, I'd prefer that to stay on the books.

    Amensty. I need details.

    As for welfare, some aspects like the EITC are good for the country.
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    Re: Libertarian Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    I'd support Allow opting out of Social Security and deregulating healthcare right off the bat.

    The rest, as stated, are too vague or far for me to accept. Tone them down and clarify and I'd likely accept all of them.
    Link in OP for where these came from, each is explained in more detail there.

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    Re: Libertarian Issues

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    Laissez-faire capitalism
    All for it

    End foreign aid
    Yes, countries need to learn how to produce and stand on their own two feet

    End gun bans
    No question

    Deregulate healthcare
    Let the free market ride like its supposed to

    End welfare
    This would have to be a slow phase out, welfare has to have alot of restrictions. However the Federal Government has no legal right to run the welfare system, it should be up to the states

    Allow opting out of Social Security
    Most definitely, let me control my money.



    Semi-amnesty for illegal aliens(work for amnesty)
    No, absolutly not, if we want to create a guest worker program for legal immigrants fine.


    End drug prohibition
    Yes, people should be responsible for their own bodies

    Avoid interventionism in foreign policy
    Yes, its time for Europe and all other countries that we have bases in to stand up and defend themselves. Enough of this babysitting
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    Re: Libertarian Issues

    End drug prohibition
    avoid interventionism in foreign policy
    End foreign aid
    End gun bans
    Allow opting out of Social Security
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Libertarian Issues

    Checked all except "avid interventionism in foreign policy" - WTF? Sure, there would be some amount of defensive militarism when foreign dictators like Hugo Chavez try to steal American property, but I'm sure corporations don't need Mommy Government to protect their own.

    Free trade, freedom of information (i.e. no patents), and voluntary charity are the best form of foreign aid.

    Gun bans and drug progibitions are property rights issues: a homeowners' association or another voluntary group can ban anything they like.

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    Re: Libertarian Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Libman View Post
    Checked all except "avid interventionism in foreign policy" - WTF? Sure, there would be some amount of defensive militarism when foreign dictators like Hugo Chavez try to steal American property, but I'm sure corporations don't need Mommy Government to protect their own.
    As stated in a post on the first page, that was supposed to say "avoid" not "avid".
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Libertarian Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    I think it would be best to move beyond general discussion of specific topics and instead into discussion of specifically libertarian justifications for or against certain policy proposals. For example, instead of discussing the purely economic facets of firearm prohibition, someone could say that it conflicts with civil libertarian notions, and someone else could say that unrestricted firearm exchange can generate negative externalities that are authoritarian in nature, for example.
    Redress doesn't care what socialist "libertarians" think. He's interested in American libertarianism.

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    Re: Libertarian Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Redress doesn't care what socialist "libertarians" think. He's interested in American libertarianism.
    Correct, thank you. I am trying to understand what Libertarians who want elected officials believe, in part so I can get a better grasp as to where they can pick up votes.

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    Re: Libertarian Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    By the way, did I do ok at getting the capital "L" Libertarian parties platform covered with the basics? Is there other issues that capital "L" types consider more important, or how about little "l" types?
    Yea, you got the jist of it. I think the reason most libertarians are reticent to associate with Libertarians not because of their policy views but because of their extreme rhetoric. They aren't pragmatic or realistic. They seem like a childish political party to me. Not to mention the fact that most libertarians deny the concept of party loyalty.

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    Re: Libertarian Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Yea, you got the jist of it. I think the reason most libertarians are reticent to associate with Libertarians not because of their policy views but because of their extreme rhetoric. They aren't pragmatic or realistic. They seem like a childish political party to me. Not to mention the fact that most libertarians deny the concept of party loyalty.
    That's probably true; most formal LP party groups tend to go overboard emphasizing the wrong things -- drug legalization, open borders -- things that most mainstream people can't/don't get behind.

    If they spent most of their time in the areas where people in general CAN relate, they'd have much more traction.
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