View Poll Results: Which Libertarian Issues Do You Agree With

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  • Laissez Faire capitalism

    19 38.78%
  • End drug prohibition

    37 75.51%
  • avid interventionism in foreign policy

    17 34.69%
  • End foreign aid

    25 51.02%
  • End gun bans

    31 63.27%
  • Deregulate healthcare

    19 38.78%
  • Semi-amnesty for illegal aliens(work for amnesty)

    17 34.69%
  • End welfare

    20 40.82%
  • Allow opting out of Social Security

    28 57.14%
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Thread: Libertarian Issues

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    Re: Libertarian Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    By the way, did I do ok at getting the capital "L" Libertarian parties platform covered with the basics? Is there other issues that capital "L" types consider more important, or how about little "l" types?
    A lot of the Party member Libertarians believe in some sort of pacifism and support democracy as it is now.

    Many of the little l's do not.
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    Re: Libertarian Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    A lot of the Party member Libertarians believe in some sort of pacifism and support democracy as it is now.

    Many of the little l's do not.
    Can you define "support democracy as it is now" for me. Do you mean that big "L" types support the current style of our government, while little"l" types oppose it? If that is so, how would you change our democracy?

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    Re: Libertarian Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    And I gave up drugs years ago. Shrooms made my vision grainy usually, and almost always made me stutter(which was odd, no one else I know had that problem).
    I've had nothing but beneficial experiences, but I have known people who have had serious mental breakdowns. A lot of meditation helps me build up the mental fortitude to appropriately handle psychedelics, in my opinion.
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    Re: Libertarian Issues

    My dot ended up directly in the center of the square, which means I have transcended the primate world of the political and am now becoming God-like, perhaps the next step in human evolution.

    See, this is what happens when I do not drink.

    I am off to get a beer and re-join the rest of you human slobs.

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    Re: Libertarian Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Can you define "support democracy as it is now" for me. Do you mean that big "L" types support the current style of our government, while little"l" types oppose it? If that is so, how would you change our democracy?
    In general, the party members support the system of who votes now.
    Agreeing that being 18 should be the only qualification and there are others who support voting at the least competent age, like a teenager or prepubescent child.

    Some little "l's" like myself do not support popular democracy and prefer limited democracy.
    Of course in the old days if was the land owners who were allowed to vote in federal elections with states having different requirements on whether or not someone had to follow those same guidelines to vote in state elections.

    I've thought of several things, restoring the land ownership requirement, IQ tests, academic achievement.
    All of those can be easily manipulated to open access to the system.

    I fall back on the same principles that the courts use to have an ethical jury.
    You can't have any financial connection to the government (Welfare both corporate and social, contractor for government, SS recipient, government worker etc.)

    I can only find it ethical and valid when the person voting doesn't get some sort of "extra" benefit for doing so.
    I'd also restrict the promising of extra benefits if X candidate is voted in.
    That is essentially a bribe, although I haven't fully thought out that part yet.
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    Re: Libertarian Issues

    Looks like most libertarians around here love their drugs.

    Anyway, I supported all of them except amnesty. Illegal immigrants in this country should be screened and criminals deported. Unless you're a criminal, you should be recorded and pay taxes like the rest of us. And if you're a prospective immigrant you should be allowed in as long as you're not a criminal.

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    Re: Libertarian Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Looks like most libertarians around here love their drugs.
    The crazy thing is that I hate drugs.
    I dislike alcohol to some degree as well.
    I quite using over 9 years ago, I think.

    I find the people that use them while their at work, driving and/or around their kids to be the most deplorable individuals.

    On the other hand, it's not my business to choose for them.
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    Re: Libertarian Issues

    I know, I was kind of messing around about libertarians loving drugs. I've never tried drugs, but I have no problem with other people using them as long as it doesn't affect me.

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    Re: Libertarian Issues

    amnesty for illegals can only be allowed after all other points are satisfied

    in other words once there is no welfare, no public health care, no public education, no social security and no taxes - then you can have amnesty for illegals

    but until a citizen is taxed to take his money and to give it to an illegal alien ( by allowing him to enjoy the benefits of living in this nation which is funded by tax dollars ) is not something libertarians would support.

    so in an ideal world i would support amnesty for illegals but not in this world.

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    Re: Libertarian Issues

    I am not sure I would make a good libertarian.

    I like these ones:
    Laissez-faire capitalism
    End foreign aid
    End gun bans
    Deregulate healthcare
    End welfare
    Allow opting out of Social Security

    I don't like this one:
    Semi-amnesty for illegal aliens(work for amnesty)

    And I am nervous about the possible ramifications of these:
    End drug prohibition
    Avoid interventionism in foreign policy

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