View Poll Results: Which Libertarian Issues Do You Agree With

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  • Laissez Faire capitalism

    19 38.78%
  • End drug prohibition

    37 75.51%
  • avid interventionism in foreign policy

    17 34.69%
  • End foreign aid

    25 51.02%
  • End gun bans

    31 63.27%
  • Deregulate healthcare

    19 38.78%
  • Semi-amnesty for illegal aliens(work for amnesty)

    17 34.69%
  • End welfare

    20 40.82%
  • Allow opting out of Social Security

    28 57.14%
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Thread: Libertarian Issues

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    Re: Libertarian Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Look, Kan, I got nothing against Mexicans. They have great food, pretty decent music, and some pretty hot chicks too.

    I have nothing against any immigrant to comes here legally.

    But what do you call it when you have millions upon millions of illegals entering the country, refusing to learn the common language or assimilate into the culture, and in some cases at least actually advocating that they should take over portions of the nation?

    Google "reconquista", "Aztlan" and "La Raza".
    Ask some medical professionals about the problems they have with illegals recieving treatment then disappearing without paying a cent.
    Ask some cops about how many drunk-driving fatalities or no-insurance-accidents turn out to involve illegals.

    It is a problem that needs to be addressed, xenophobia is not required.
    It's a problem, and I am 100 % against illegal immigrants. What it is not is some kind of "invasion". It's that kind of over the top comment that makes it hard to take some anti-illegals serious(that CNN guy comes to mind, what's his name?).

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    Re: Libertarian Issues

    Lou Dobbs? He's a propagandist and authoritarian in every sense of the word.

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    Re: Libertarian Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    Lou Dobbs? He's a propagandist and authoritarian in every sense of the word.
    Of course, anyone who doesn't love illegal aliens is authoritarian.

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    Re: Libertarian Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Of course, anyone who doesn't love illegal aliens is authoritarian.
    I have been called alot of things on this board, but never an authoritarian before...

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    Re: Libertarian Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    But what do you call it when you have millions upon millions of illegals entering the country,
    If that's a problem in some parts of the nation, then we just need to spread them out more, so that they aren't concentrated in a few states and suddenly overwhelming the local economy. I wouldn't be opposed to an amnesty program that involved them being required to relocate to a particular state for a few years.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin
    refusing to learn the common language or assimilate into the culture,
    Very few of them refuse to learn English. While the first generation often has trouble learning the language (just like every other wave of immigrants), almost all second-generation Latinos speak English as their primary language.

    As for assimilating into our culture...Latino (especially Mexican) culture is surprisingly similar to American culture already.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin
    and in some cases at least actually advocating that they should take over portions of the nation?

    Google "reconquista", "Aztlan" and "La Raza".
    Very few immigrants want to "take over" anything. If they wanted to live in Mexico, they would have stayed in Mexico.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin
    Ask some medical professionals about the problems they have with illegals recieving treatment then disappearing without paying a cent.
    Which is why I think that the government should pick up the tab for anyone who stiffs the emergency room (after requiring that everyone have health insurance, of course).

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin
    Ask some cops about how many drunk-driving fatalities or no-insurance-accidents turn out to involve illegals.
    What does this have to do with the fact that they are illegal? US citizens never drive drunk?
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    Re: Libertarian Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Of course, anyone who doesn't love illegal aliens is authoritarian.
    Opposition to freedom of movement on jingoistic grounds is an authoritarian political position more commonly associated with other reactionary perspectives than its converse is, yes. Even capitalist "libertarians" generally recognize that.

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    Re: Libertarian Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Of course, anyone who doesn't love illegal aliens is authoritarian.
    Uhh Lou Dobbs certainly is. He makes me want to puke every time I listen to him. He's probably one of the scariest people on television because he advocates the most ridiculous policies without coming across as a buffoon, unlike a Bill O'Reilly or Glenn Beck.
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    Re: Libertarian Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Uhh Lou Dobbs certainly is.
    I think the term for Lou Dobbs is just "idiot". I am as much or more against illegals as any one, but I don't have high blood pressure over the issue. Every time Lou Dobbs brings it up, you can see him turning red and his veins start to bulge.

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    Re: Libertarian Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    Opposition to freedom of movement on jingoistic grounds is an authoritarian political position more commonly associated with other reactionary perspectives than its converse is, yes. Even capitalist "libertarians" generally recognize that.
    Legitimate freedom of movement does not entail illegal actions. This country is a sovereign nation with laws. Foreigners are not exempt from these laws, no matter how much you'd like them to be.

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    Re: Libertarian Issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Legitimate freedom of movement does not entail illegal actions. This country is a sovereign nation with laws. Foreigners are not exempt from these laws, no matter how much you'd like them to be.
    God damn it! You are not supposed to say stuff that I agree with like this...

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