View Poll Results: should a bus driver be allowed to kick crying babies and their caregivers off the bus

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Thread: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

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    Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother and her toddler off the bus because the toddler is crying or making a lot of noise?

    Crying toddler kicked off Victoria bus

    Manzer and her daughter, Briar Leach, were travelling from the University of Victoria to downtown Sept. 11 when Briar started to fuss. "She was just saying 'no, no, no, no.' It was loud and annoying, but she stayed in her seat and I was doing everything I could to calm her down," Manzer said.

    But the bus driver pulled up at the busy Lansdowne-Foul Bay intersection and demanded that Manzer leave the bus because the noise was affecting his driving. Manzer said she had no stroller and three bags and would have to carry Briar a considerable distance to get home.

    "I appealed to stay because it was not a safe situation to get off the bus with her, and he said he didn't care and I would have to learn to control her."

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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    If the child was acting like a brat and the parent was failing to control that child then yes they should be kicked off. I know I am not the only one to witness a inept parent in the store who basically has no control over their child and their child is kicking screaming and misbehaving and getting into things that they are not supposed to. These types of parents should be considerate to everyone else and leave their child with a baby sitter or at least strap their child to a seat so it can not run around.
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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    Without having read anything beyond the question:

    Yes, unless doing so would place her in immediate danger.

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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    Now, because of this experience, they're now wondering whether they should buy a vehicle.
    Uh gee ya think?

    "I've ridden buses with inebriated people, riders with loud headphones, people swearing or making racial slurs, carrying jugs of liquor and even stripping down to their panties and changing clothes. None of these customers was asked to leave the bus," she said.
    There's something about a child's cry that get's one's attention.

    I for one can use my gender's super ability of selective hearing to tune out music, cursing, etc, but a child's cry can not be ignored.

    Perhaps next time she is asked to leave a bus she should strip for the driver?

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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    I'd say not. The irritation caused to other people is probably a lesser imposition than the delay and inconvenience imposed on the mother if she was kicked off the bus.

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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    Ridiculous overreaction on the bus driver's part...kids cry. It's not as if the child was running amok, and mother was doing everything she could to try to help the situation, according to the article.

    If you're ok with this situation, what's to stop a bus driver from removing people from their bus for any aribtrary reason they choose?

    If the driver was so affected by surrounding distractions, maybe he needs to be the one getting off the bus...and looking for a job in a nice, quiet cube where he can concentrate.
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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    The customer gets to decide which business to choose.

    The business owner gets to make the rules.

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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Libman View Post
    The property owner gets to make the rules.
    The bus driver is not a "property owner," but an employee of the municipal government that is the actual property owner. If he actually was, that would of course permit him to have a dictatorial monopoly over the bus perhaps supported by someone else's monopoly over the public transportation network.
    Last edited by Agnapostate; 09-30-09 at 08:19 PM.

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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Libman View Post
    The property owner gets to make the rules.
    The mother paid for a service, a bus ride, she is entitled to it.

    Also, the driver does not own the bus...the transit company does and they obviously did not agree with his actions.

    Nice, quick edit there, sir. :P
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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    No.The last thing some aggravated woman with screaming child in tow needs is to get kicked off public transportation. Toddlers pitch a fit all the time. If you happen to be in earshot too bad.

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