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Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

should a bus driver be allowed to kick crying babies and their caregivers off the bus

  • Yes. It's distracting to him and irritating to others

    Votes: 10 18.5%
  • In some circumstances I suppose

    Votes: 10 18.5%
  • I'm not sure

    Votes: 3 5.6%
  • No, children cry sometimes, they have a right to ride the bus

    Votes: 27 50.0%
  • I hate kids and they shouldn't be allowed in public

    Votes: 4 7.4%

  • Total voters
    54
20 months is not a squalling newborn. the kid can walk and talk, there is no excuse.

the woman tolerates tantrums from her toddler, and has to accept the consequences of this.

Hey sometimes you just can't get them to stop. It's not always that easy.
 
Then again, the lady paid the bus fare, she in effect bought the right to ride the bus. This right was not conditional, as far as I know, on the child staying quiet.

she got free passes as a result of the incident. I think that is more than fair. I would have only given her two passes instead of four, assuming she paid for the kid.

one time my toddler cousin threw such a tantrum in the airport that they asked my aunt not to get on the flight with him, and gave her a voucher to fly later. it seemed to me to be a very sensible move on their part, as the kid would have ruined a 2.5 hour flight for hundreds of people otherwise.
 
she got free passes as a result of the incident. I think that is more than fair. I would have only given her two passes instead of four, assuming she paid for the kid.
I think it seems fair to me. The bus company made a mistake and they apologized for it.

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one time my toddler cousin threw such a tantrum in the airport that they asked my aunt not to get on the flight with him, and gave her a voucher to fly later. it seemed to me to be a very sensible move on their part, as the kid would have ruined a 2.5 hour flight for hundreds of people otherwise.[/QUOTE]

I think this makes sense, but is different than kicking someone off a bus.
 
20 months is not a squalling newborn. the kid can walk and talk, there is no excuse.

the woman tolerates tantrums from her toddler, and has to accept the consequences of this.




meh, call me old fashion. There are worse things in this world than a crying baby. Throwing a mother and her child off a bus because the child is crying to me is one of them.

Deal with it, you'll survive.
 
meh, call me old fashion. There are worse things in this world than a crying baby. Throwing a mother and her child off a bus because the child is crying to me is one of them.

Deal with it, you'll survive.

it was an overreaction, no question. but it is not a crying baby, it's a yelling toddler. I think this distinction is important. it seems more of a failure on the mother's part if she can't control a kid vs. she can't make a baby stop crying.
 
meh, call me old fashion. There are worse things in this world than a crying baby. Throwing a mother and her child off a bus because the child is crying to me is one of them.

Deal with it, you'll survive.

It was a toddler not a newborn baby.
I can make allowances for newborns or months old babies but a toddler? I mean, come on.

Why should others be forced to put up with a mother unable to control her child?
 
i voted YES kick the bitch to the curb

i don't see Asian kids throwing fits - they understand discipline

if you don't know how to raise kids then you better know how to drive a car.

kids are like dogs. their parents/owners think everybody should love them.

i am sorry but i don't love your dog and i don't love your kids. if you feel like traveling with your dog - BUY A CAR - and the same for your retarded kids.

I have seen kids of all color throw tantrums. White, Black, Middle Eastern, Asian... This isn't a race issue.
 
Hey sometimes you just can't get them to stop. It's not always that easy.

if I had been there, I probably would have sided with the mother, just because it seems cruel to leave a hassled woman in a strange neighborhood with a kid and an armful of groceries. it is not impossible for the driver and other passengers to just deal with a kid having a tantrum for a half-hour ride (or longer...).

in principle, though, the mother kind of got what she deserved. her kid is too old for amnesty.
 
It was a toddler not a newborn baby.
I can make allowances for newborns or months old babies but a toddler? I mean, come on.

Why should others be forced to put up with a mother unable to control her child?




Because we don't throw mothers and thier babies out onto the street miles from home because we are annoyed? :shrug:
 
I have seen kids of all color throw tantrums. White, Black, Middle Eastern, Asian... This isn't a race issue.

it is probably a cultural one though.
 
it was an overreaction, no question. but it is not a crying baby, it's a yelling toddler. I think this distinction is important. it seems more of a failure on the mother's part if she can't control a kid vs. she can't make a baby stop crying.




Sure a failure on the mothers part. I think that's irrellevant. You don't throw a mother and a "20 month old" out onto the street cause you are annoyed.
 
Because we don't throw mothers and thier babies out onto the street miles from home because we are annoyed? :shrug:

Sure, I think a warning should have been given unless the public complained. I do think drivers reserve the right to kick anyone they deem is distracting off their bus.
 
it is probably a cultural one though.

My absolute favourite programme by BBC.
Demonstrates exactly the cultural divide and differences when it comes to discipline.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGJm-Ux_i9E"]YouTube - WORLD'S STRICTEST PARENTS : JAMAICA PART I[/ame]

5 onwards is my favourite part and is my view.
I would recommend watching it all tho
 
Sure a failure on the mothers part. I think that's irrellevant. You don't throw a mother and a "20 month old" out onto the street cause you are annoyed.

it is old fashioned to be so chivalrous. :) just like it is old-fashioned to raise respectful kids.
 
Sure, I think a warning should have been given unless the public complained. I do think drivers reserve the right to kick anyone they deem is distracting off their bus.




Drop her off at the police station, and explain to the constabulatory, what, and why.


abandoning a mother and child in a strange neigborhood because you were annoyed?


Come now, I'm supposed to be the hearless conservative. :lol:
 
Drop her off at the police station, and explain to the constabulatory, what, and why.


abandoning a mother and child in a strange neigborhood because you were annoyed?


Come now, I'm supposed to be the hearless conservative. :lol:

Yeah right, divert from the course of the journey and make everyone else late? Erm. No thanks.

Maybe the Mother should learn to control the toddler before taking it out in public.
 
it is old fashioned to be so chivalrous. :) just like it is old-fashioned to raise respectful kids.




My kid will be. I can not teach others kids the same, sadly, however the fact that this woman may be raising a savage, does not excuse me acting like one.
 
Yeah right, divert from the course of the journey and make everyone else late? Erm. No thanks.

Maybe the Mother should learn to control the toddler before taking it out in public.




You heartless bitch! :2razz::2razz::2razz:(j/k)
 
You heartless bitch! :2razz::2razz::2razz:(j/k)

Lol =P

I am heartless when it comes to things like this and I admit it. I am a disciplinarian and I am proud of that. At least any children that come out of me will know to defer to their elders

I have as good as told parents of children who spit on other members of the public and act up to control their children or do not take them out in public.
 
Lol =P

I am heartless when it comes to things like this and I admit it. I am a disciplinarian and I am proud of that. At least any children that come out of me will know to defer to their elders

I have as good as told parents of children who spit on other members of the public and act up to control their children or do not take them out in public.

Easy for you to say now. I'll reserve the right comment if you begin rearing children of your own. You may find you don't have all the answers you think you do.
 
Easy for you to say now. I'll reserve the right comment if you begin rearing children of your own. You may find you don't have all the answers you think you do.

Ain't that the truth... :rofl
 
Easy for you to say now. I'll reserve the right comment if you begin rearing children of your own. You may find you don't have all the answers you think you do.

I pretty much raised 5 of my siblings on my own, I was a second Mother from the age of 13+

I don't have all the answers, raising children does not come with a notebook but I am 99.9% certain that I would not have a out of control toddler. Discipline and rules is something any child in contact with me are aware of ... quickly. I would not stand for any child of mine to talk back, I do not follow this doctrine many other parents have of no 'hitting/spanking' your child. I would not hesitate to dish out physical discipline if necessary

And yes on the question, drivers reserve the right to kick out irresponsible people. Having a toddler does not make you immune.

A child is a reflection of the parent. If a child is out of control, you failed in your job as a parent
 
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I pretty much raised 5 of my siblings on my own, I was a second Mother from the age of 13+

I don't have all the answers, raising children does not come with a notebook but I am 99.9% certain that I would not have a out of control toddler. Discipline and rules is something any child in contact with me are aware of ... quickly. I would not stand for any child of mine to talk back, I do not follow this doctrine many other parents have of no 'hitting/spanking' your child. I would not hesitate to dish out physical discipline if necessary

And yes on the question, drivers reserve the right to kick out irresponsible people. Having a toddler does not make you immune.

A child is a reflection of the parent. If a child is out of control, you failed in your job as a parent

It's not the same thing. Toddlers are not always able communicate very well, so yes, they still use screaming/crying as a way to get what they want/need when they can't communicate what they want/need. You don't "just make a toddler stop having a tantrum" - it doesn't work like that. It takes patience, often times a LOT of patience.

If we were talking about an older child, then I'd see your point. But we're talking about a toddler that's not even two years old yet.
 
It's not the same thing. Toddlers are not always able communicate very well, so yes, they still use screaming/crying as a way to get what they want/need when they can't communicate what they want/need. You don't "just make a toddler stop having a tantrum" - it doesn't work like that. It takes patience, often times a LOT of patience.

If we were talking about an older child, then I'd see your point. But we're talking about a toddler that's not even two years old yet.

Who said "just make" a toddler do anything?

I said the driver reserves the right to remove those he deems distracting.
 
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