View Poll Results: should a bus driver be allowed to kick crying babies and their caregivers off the bus

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  • Yes. It's distracting to him and irritating to others

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  • In some circumstances I suppose

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  • I'm not sure

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  • No, children cry sometimes, they have a right to ride the bus

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Thread: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Lol =P

    I am heartless when it comes to things like this and I admit it. I am a disciplinarian and I am proud of that. At least any children that come out of me will know to defer to their elders

    I have as good as told parents of children who spit on other members of the public and act up to control their children or do not take them out in public.
    Easy for you to say now. I'll reserve the right comment if you begin rearing children of your own. You may find you don't have all the answers you think you do.
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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    Easy for you to say now. I'll reserve the right comment if you begin rearing children of your own. You may find you don't have all the answers you think you do.
    Ain't that the truth...

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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    Easy for you to say now. I'll reserve the right comment if you begin rearing children of your own. You may find you don't have all the answers you think you do.
    I pretty much raised 5 of my siblings on my own, I was a second Mother from the age of 13+

    I don't have all the answers, raising children does not come with a notebook but I am 99.9% certain that I would not have a out of control toddler. Discipline and rules is something any child in contact with me are aware of ... quickly. I would not stand for any child of mine to talk back, I do not follow this doctrine many other parents have of no 'hitting/spanking' your child. I would not hesitate to dish out physical discipline if necessary

    And yes on the question, drivers reserve the right to kick out irresponsible people. Having a toddler does not make you immune.

    A child is a reflection of the parent. If a child is out of control, you failed in your job as a parent
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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I pretty much raised 5 of my siblings on my own, I was a second Mother from the age of 13+

    I don't have all the answers, raising children does not come with a notebook but I am 99.9% certain that I would not have a out of control toddler. Discipline and rules is something any child in contact with me are aware of ... quickly. I would not stand for any child of mine to talk back, I do not follow this doctrine many other parents have of no 'hitting/spanking' your child. I would not hesitate to dish out physical discipline if necessary

    And yes on the question, drivers reserve the right to kick out irresponsible people. Having a toddler does not make you immune.

    A child is a reflection of the parent. If a child is out of control, you failed in your job as a parent
    It's not the same thing. Toddlers are not always able communicate very well, so yes, they still use screaming/crying as a way to get what they want/need when they can't communicate what they want/need. You don't "just make a toddler stop having a tantrum" - it doesn't work like that. It takes patience, often times a LOT of patience.

    If we were talking about an older child, then I'd see your point. But we're talking about a toddler that's not even two years old yet.
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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    Quote Originally Posted by mae View Post
    It's not the same thing. Toddlers are not always able communicate very well, so yes, they still use screaming/crying as a way to get what they want/need when they can't communicate what they want/need. You don't "just make a toddler stop having a tantrum" - it doesn't work like that. It takes patience, often times a LOT of patience.

    If we were talking about an older child, then I'd see your point. But we're talking about a toddler that's not even two years old yet.
    Who said "just make" a toddler do anything?

    I said the driver reserves the right to remove those he deems distracting.


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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Should she get off and stand on the corner for an hour - hoping the kid shuts the hell up so they can get back on another bus???
    Or *gasp* get control over her kid.

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    What if she's taking the kid to the dr?
    Since her child was posing a safety compromise, where she's going is irrelevant.

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    What if the kid is screaming cause it has an ear infection and she doesn't have a car?
    Ambulance drivers are trained and acclimated to driving with screaming people in the back

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    I think, as adults, we can handle some lady's kid crying on the bus or the plane without pitching a little tantrum ourselves. Grow the f up people.
    As adults, we can control our children or, as adults, show others common decency and respect to stay off the bus while the child is a safety risk.

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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    Taking an ambulance for an ear infection is a gross misuse of public funds.

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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Who said "just make" a toddler do anything?

    I said the driver reserves the right to remove those he deems distracting.
    It's the driver's discretion according to the driver's judgment just as infractions are a mod's judgment call, sending someone home for an improper attitude is a boss's judgment call or asking someone to leave your property is a judgment call.

    The driver has the "I'm the boss" card here and as such is beyond reproach.

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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    Taking an ambulance for an ear infection is a gross misuse of public funds.
    One ambulance trip -vs- many ambulance trips should the buss crash because the child was distracting the driver (a crime, I might add).

    I'll go with "buy a damn car" for 400.

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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    One ambulance trip -vs- many ambulance trips should the buss crash because the child was distracting the driver (a crime, I might add).

    I'll go with "buy a damn car" for 400.
    And if she can't afford a car?
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