View Poll Results: should a bus driver be allowed to kick crying babies and their caregivers off the bus

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  • Yes. It's distracting to him and irritating to others

    19 27.14%
  • In some circumstances I suppose

    12 17.14%
  • I'm not sure

    4 5.71%
  • No, children cry sometimes, they have a right to ride the bus

    30 42.86%
  • I hate kids and they shouldn't be allowed in public

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Thread: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Uh gee ya think?



    There's something about a child's cry that get's one's attention.

    I for one can use my gender's super ability of selective hearing to tune out music, cursing, etc, but a child's cry can not be ignored.

    Perhaps next time she is asked to leave a bus she should strip for the driver?
    Yeah women should prostitute themselves out so men can put up with the presence of a surly child.

    Fat chance.

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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    No.The last thing some aggravated woman with screaming child in tow needs is to get kicked off public transportation. Toddlers pitch a fit all the time. If you happen to be in earshot too bad.
    There should be no "public" transportation - tragedy of the commons.

    And can't they invent a soundproof / smellproof container of some sort...

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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Libman View Post
    There should be no "public" transportation - tragedy of the commons.

    And can't they invent a soundproof / smellproof container of some sort...
    If you don't want to be subjected to B.O., greasy hair, gas, screaming children, loud mouths, and all other types of craziness you need to get off the bus.

    I use to ride the El to work when I lived in Philly.

    Grossest experiences:

    Kid with actual bugs on his neck - lice? I could see them. Crawling around his hairline.

    Next up was a kid with a cup who proceeded to hawk up huge wads of phlegm and spit them in the cup. I thought I was gonna vomit on the spot after he did it the 3rd time. It made me so sick to watch I actually had to ask him just wtf he was doing that twisted crap for. Apparently he was in some sport, wrestling I think, and that day was weigh in day. He was gonna spit in that cup all day in an attempt to make his weigh in. On top of all that he was hideous and I'm thinking retarded to boot. This guy made the lice kid seem like a delightful seat mate.

    So I don't want to hear jack about crying kids on public transportation. I really don't.

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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    Listen lady, I was born in the Soviet Union. I've eaten things that are more disgusting than the worst thing you can imagine. That said, my original point about property rights and consumer choice still stands.

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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Libman View Post
    Listen lady, I was born in the Soviet Union. I've eaten things that are more disgusting than the worst thing you can imagine. That said, my original point about property rights and consumer choice still stands.
    ...and my response to you stands...

    The driver didn't OWN the bus. The transit company that DID clearly disagreed with the driver's actions.

    The consumer made her choice in good faith, she paid her bus fare to ride on a bus that she had not been thrown off of before, nor was she warned that she might be removed from the bus if her child did not behave.

    The bus driver overreacted, it was inexcusable.
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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Libman View Post
    There should be no "public" transportation - tragedy of the commons.
    I suspect you don't even know what a tragedy of the commons is.

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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    I suspect you don't even know what a tragedy of the commons is.

    He probably does but is probably also naive enough to believe that the world is so simple that every situation where property is held in common leads to 'tragedy'.

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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    I selected "In some circumstances I suppose". If a child or anyone for that matter is being very disruptive a bus driver should have the ability to kick them off. I would reserve this for only extreme circumstances tho.

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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    He probably does but is probably also naive enough to believe that the world is so simple that every situation where property is held in common leads to 'tragedy'.
    Public transportation in no way compares to the ultimate failure of the commons.

    The commons is more of a lesson of the importance of environmental stewardship not being left in the hands of whomever has sheep needing grass...

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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    More than that, it doesn't prove the failure of the collective management it's frequently incorrectly used to attack because the state of the "commons" in the original analogy was by nature unregulated and subject to a free-for-all rape of sorts.

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