View Poll Results: should a bus driver be allowed to kick crying babies and their caregivers off the bus

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  • In some circumstances I suppose

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  • I'm not sure

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  • No, children cry sometimes, they have a right to ride the bus

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Thread: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    Quote Originally Posted by missypea View Post
    It still doesn't address the OP, Goshin. If Mom was ejected from the bus because of noise, how is spanking the baby going to get it quiet in the bus?

    You see what I mean?


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    EDIT: NVM. I read too quickly. I missed the point you were making here:
    Ok. I'll address the OP question directly anyway.


    The driver's first responsibilty is to the safety of the passengers on his bus, and indirectly to the safety of other motorists on the road with him.

    It is a judgement call as to whether any given individual on the bus is creating a distraction that is impairing the driver's ability to cope with that primary responsibility, and if the driver is not allowed to make that judgement call, safety will suffer as a result.

    Therefore any individual who distracts the driver from Task #1 is subject to being removed from the bus.

    If I were the driver, would I have put her off? Probably not. I'm arguably a bit more used to crying children as a single parent. I might have asked her to move to the rear of the bus if it was loud enough to be distracting.

    I wasn't there, I wasn't the driver, and the driver is the one making that call as to what interferes with his ability to perform Task #1.

    Riding the bus isn't a right, to my knowlege. It is a convenience provided for city dwellers and provided by gov't or private contractors, either to make a profit or to keep auto traffic down or as PR bait, or all the above. I don't know that anyone has a right to ride the bus if they're making it hard for the driver to fulfill his number-one responsibility.

    Now, the driver's employer has decided that he acted inappropriately... or at least that is what they're saying for public consumption. They gave her some free tickets and said "sorry" and said the driver would be monitored more closely in future. Ok then. What do you want, the guy's head on a pike?

    Frankly I just don't see this as that big of a deal really. If the Mommy in question wasn't a reporter herself this probably would not have made the news.

    If it had happened to me, I'd be annoyed, yeah. But if you don't want to risk being removed from the bus for having a crying child, get a car and drive I suppose.

    I guess you could mark me down as "Meh."

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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    OR... she could just offer her breast to me. I could probably deal with her screaming kid better then. Seems like a fair trade.
    heh, heh...

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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    I voted the same. To me, the following circumstances would warrant a kicking off of the mother and child:

    (1) Child is running around the bus and endangering him/herself or doing something that is physically impacting the driver (trying to grab the wheel or step on the gas). No question--kick that kid and mother off the bus.

    (2) Child is throwing up all over the place. OFF.

    (3) Child is sneezing openly on other people. Sorry, but with Swine Flu--you're outta there, bud.

    Those are the type of circumstances that I think a child w/ the parent can be kicked off. The circumstances in this case? NO WAY.

    I hate it when parents don't control their kids as well. I would rather leave a place if my child was out of control and would inconvenience myself to avoid the disruption.
    Sneezing, for reals?

    That's crazy. I remember when my kids were in preschool and I'd be in class helping out. There seemed to be a constant stream of wee ones with perpetually runny noses. Gross but common in the little ones. They're perpetual germ factories whether they sneeze openly on you or not. There's nothing much to be done about it. Pointless to get hysterical and toss them off of a bus for openly sneezing sheesh.

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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Sneezing, for reals?

    That's crazy. I remember when my kids were in preschool and I'd be in class helping out. There seemed to be a constant stream of wee ones with perpetually runny noses. Gross but common in the little ones. They're perpetual germ factories whether they sneeze openly on you or not. There's nothing much to be done about it. Pointless to get hysterical and toss them off of a bus for openly sneezing sheesh.
    I agree. Punishing children for an involuntary body function is grossly inappropriate.

    As usual, Jerry's solution is WRONG.

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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    Quote Originally Posted by mae View Post
    Good way to make the kid scream more!
    Typically after the 2nd or 3rd smack they get it.
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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Typically after the 2nd or 3rd smack they get it.
    You obviously haven't raised many children...
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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    You obviously haven't raised many children...
    A smack to a 20 month old will elicit a wail of uncontrollable, ear-piercing screams that will be very upsetting to all within earshot.

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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    A smack to a 20 month old will elicit a wail of uncontrollable, ear-piercing screams that will be very upsetting to all within earshot.
    If somebody smacked my 20 month old, I would have to kill them.

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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Distracting the driver.

    That's bull****.


    Shame on you, Jerry.

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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother and her toddler off the bus because the toddler is crying or making a lot of noise?

    Crying toddler kicked off Victoria bus
    put duck tape over his mouth just make sure his nose is clean so he can breathe

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