View Poll Results: should a bus driver be allowed to kick crying babies and their caregivers off the bus

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  • In some circumstances I suppose

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Thread: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    Quote Originally Posted by theangryamerican View Post
    Annoying you is not worth me getting my child taken away.
    I don't think you understand PC. It isn't PC unless it is leftist my piinko friend.

    What is acceptable discipline for a 20 month old?
    A smack, a telling off, a removal of toys or sweets, the usual.

    I would think a crying child is something that a bus driver would deal with on a regular basis. He needs to realize it comes with the job...
    Obviously I disagree. He shouldn't have to put up with it. It is like bad manners. You could say he should generally put with rudeness or you could try and stamp it out.
    I've managed to deal with many crying, screaming children over the course of different jobs without it affecting my work. Again, answer my question, where do you draw the line? What else are you willing to justify because this driver couldn't handle a child doing what children naturally do.
    I disagree it is natural. I and certainly my 60+ year old father never did most of what children today are allowed to get away with.

    Part of being a good parent is KNOWING when to discipline your child. If your child is crying because they are hungry, are you going to beat them...or FEED them?
    A 20 month old is not a suckling infant at breast and children older certainly aren't. I'm not sure you understand what is being talked about.
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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    I STRONGLY feel that if someone on the subway is so fat that they take up two seats they should have to pay two fares.
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post

    A 20 month old is not a suckling infant at breast and children older certainly aren't. I'm not sure you understand what is being talked about.
    The OP is asking if it's OK to eject a mom and a 20 month old off a bus because the 20 month old won't shut up.

    What are you talking about?



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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    Quote Originally Posted by missypea View Post
    The OP is asking if it's OK to eject a mom and a 20 month old off a bus because the 20 month old won't shut up.

    What are you talking about?


    I'm in agreement with you and Mira, missypea. If a 20 month old is crying there is either something wrong with them or they are having a tantrum. If there is something wrong, they need comfort. If they are having a tantrum then the best way to cut that in the bud is not to give the child what s/he is after - crying continues, this time.

    Seems a very strange thing and nothing to do with kids acting out of hand.
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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    Quote Originally Posted by missypea View Post
    Wessex--what do you mean by discipline a 20 month old, spank her? If the noise level was an issue before a spanking what do you think it would be after a spanking?
    Okay, I missed that the kid was 20 months old. That does make a little bit of a difference, when they're under 2 yrs old a certain amount of crying episodes are almost unavoidable.

    However, 20 months old isn't too young to spank, in a controlled and careful manner, and the measured and deliberate application of correct discipline will tend to minimize brat-fits, even if it doesn't eliminate them entirely in that age-range.

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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    It still doesn't address the OP, Goshin. If Mom was ejected from the bus because of noise, how is spanking the baby going to get it quiet in the bus?

    You see what I mean?


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    EDIT: NVM. I read too quickly. I missed the point you were making here:
    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Okay, I missed that the kid was 20 months old. That does make a little bit of a difference, when they're under 2 yrs old a certain amount of crying episodes are almost unavoidable.
    Last edited by missypea; 10-04-09 at 12:47 PM.


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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Okay, I missed that the kid was 20 months old. That does make a little bit of a difference, when they're under 2 yrs old a certain amount of crying episodes are almost unavoidable.

    However, 20 months old isn't too young to spank, in a controlled and careful manner, and the measured and deliberate application of correct discipline will tend to minimize brat-fits, even if it doesn't eliminate them entirely in that age-range.
    Exactly my point. I'm not against disciplining a child, I do if often enough with my own. My point through out this whole thread has been that the child is not even two years old yet. Crying is going to happen at this point, it doesn't mean the child is misbehaving and it doesn't make the mother a bad parent. It just happens and it's ridiculous that an intolerant individual threw her off the bus for this.

    Further, the mother says she tried to quiet the child. I don't know if that involved a swat on the butt or a slap on the wrist. I wasn't there. Going solely off of what was written in the article, the driver overreacted. The mother and the other bus passengers all thought so and they WERE there.
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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    Haven't read all 13 pages to this thread but I'm with Jerry back on page 1. Unless it would put the child and it's guardian in imminent danger, the child should be expelled from the bus.

    HOWEVER, this should NOT apply to airlines.

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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    20 month old babies are often still breastfeeding for comfort and nourishment. A simple solution would have been to offer the breast to pacify the child. But, in our child un-friendly culture, public nursing is frowned up in many quarters. What's a mother and child to do?

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    Re: Is it okay for a bus driver to kick a mother with crying toddler off the bus?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    20 month old babies are often still breastfeeding for comfort and nourishment. A simple solution would have been to offer the breast to pacify the child. But, in our child un-friendly culture, public nursing is frowned up in many quarters. What's a mother and child to do?
    OR... she could just offer her breast to me. I could probably deal with her screaming kid better then. Seems like a fair trade.

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