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    Re: Should getting a sex change be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Panache View Post
    I of course do not think the government should be at all involved. I could see how many doctors would see it as a betrayal of the Hippocratic oath, as the procedure is both elective and potentially, if not definitely harmful.
    Why would it be any more harmful than say bypass surgery?

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    Re: Should getting a sex change be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sanitas View Post
    Me and 2 of my friends had a conversation about this topic.

    We all had different opinions. I thought that it should stay legal, but not necessarily encouraged. Another thought they were immoral, not a natural right, and technology shouldn't be advanced in this topic. Another thought there wasn't much wrong with it.

    What is your opinion?
    I voted no. Mentally ill people shouldn't be taken advantage of by currupt quacks and greedy plastic surgeons. A doctor chopping your penis off and giving you some pills does not make you woman. Not only should it be illegal it should also be considered highly unethical in the medical field to take advantage of mentally ill people.
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    Re: Should getting a sex change be legal?

    Why would it be any more harmful than say bypass surgery?
    It wouldn't, but I also believe that a doctor who performed bypass surgery because a patient requested it even though it wasn't medically necessary, would almost certainly be remiss in his Hippocratic oath, and guilty of malpractice.

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    Re: Should getting a sex change be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Panache View Post
    It wouldn't, but I also believe that a doctor who performed bypass surgery because a patient requested it even though it wasn't medically necessary, would almost certainly be remiss in his Hippocratic oath, and guilty of malpractice.
    It certainly would be diffulcult to determine if one needed sex reassignment to be healthy/live vs cardiovascular surgery. It is unexplored territory IMHO.

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    Re: Should getting a sex change be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I voted no. Mentally ill people shouldn't be taken advantage of by currupt quacks and greedy plastic surgeons. A doctor chopping your penis off and giving you some pills does not make you woman. Not only should it be illegal it should also be considered highly unethical in the medical field to take advantage of mentally ill people.
    Many transexuals are much happier after the process. Whether or not it's in their minds is beside the point. I would agree that they have some psychological issues...but it seems that those problems get better, not worse, after they have this done.

    I don't claim to be able to understand what they are going through...but if it makes them happy and doesn't hurt anyone, I don't see what the problem is. My only suggestion would be that their doctors refer them to a psychologist to help them during the entire process.
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    Re: Should getting a sex change be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Many transexuals are much happier after the process. Whether or not it's in their minds is beside the point. I would agree that they have some psychological issues...but it seems that those problems get better after they have this done.

    I don't claim to be able to understand what they are going through...but if it makes them happy and doesn't hurt anyone, I don't see what the problem is.
    So if someone claimed to be a duck trapped in a human's body then we should allows doctors to add prosthetic wings,feathers, duck and bill and anything to facilitate his fantasy that he is really a duck and have him legally declared a duck because it makes him happy and doesn't hurt anyone? Mentally ill people should not be exploited by greedy doctors and corrupt quacks. Regardless if he is still happy he is still mentally ill man but this time with a lot of modification done to his body that is going to be costly to reverse if he ever gets his sanity back.
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    Re: Should getting a sex change be legal?

    that would be silly. why would it be made illegal? why would this even come up. it seems to me to be a no brainer. it only effects the person. they surgery and all the rest are not covered by insurance so it doesn't not have anything to do with this. they are not covered by any public funds.
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    Re: Should getting a sex change be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    So if someone claimed to be a duck trapped in a human's body then we should allows doctors to add prosthetic wings,feathers, duck and bill and anything to facilitate his fantasy that he is really a duck and have him legally declared a duck because it makes him happy and doesn't hurt anyone? Mentally ill people should not be exploited by greedy doctors and corrupt quacks. Regardless if he is still happy he is still mentally ill man but this time with a lot of modification done to his body that is going to be costly to reverse if he ever gets his sanity back.
    this is what always happens when these kinds of debates. people bring up ridiculous examples that are not even realistic. it gets very childish. this is why a debate of this nature is not even a learning experience.
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    Re: Should getting a sex change be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    that would be silly. why would it be made illegal? why would this even come up. it seems to me to be a no brainer. it only effects the person. they surgery and all the rest are not covered by insurance so it doesn't not have anything to do with this. they are not covered by any public funds.
    Not if you live in San Francisco.
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    Re: Should getting a sex change be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Why would it be any more harmful than say bypass surgery?
    Did you read my post about what this surgery entails and the potential complications?

    If you need a bypass to save your life, that is one thing entirely.

    If you think you need gender-reassignment surgery, it could be argued that what you really need is gender recognition therapy.

    It isn't the same thing as bypass surgery at all.

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