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    Re: Should getting a sex change be legal?

    In the case of amputation, you are losing the functionality of your limb.

    In the case of a sex change, nothing is actually being "cut off." Existing tissue is being restructured so it's a hole instead of a pole (or in rare cases, vice versa). No functionality is lost; the patient is still able to urinate and have sex. They won't ever be able to reproduce, but lots of people get surgery to eliminate that functionality anyway.
    It seems to me that turning a pole into a hole involves chopping off the pole, I am no doctor though, so I suppose I can't say for sure. Regardless of how it is done, it is clearly a very extreme mutilation, much more so than piercings, scarification or even boob jobs.

    It seems to me that Jamesrage's analogy is right on track. What fundamental difference is there between someone who thinks they are a woman trapped in a man's body and someone who thinks they are a duck trapped in a man's body?

    Certainly the man might claim to be happier after feathers have been grafted into his skin, but I can't help but wonder about the moral fiber of a doctor who grafts duck feathers into a man's skin to help him feel more like a duck.

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    Re: Should getting a sex change be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Panache View Post
    It seems to me that turning a pole into a hole involves chopping off the pole, I am no doctor though, so I suppose I can't say for sure. Regardless of how it is done, it is clearly a very extreme mutilation, much more so than piercings, scarification or even boob jobs.
    So what?

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    It seems to me that Jamesrage's analogy is right on track. What fundamental difference is there between someone who thinks they are a woman trapped in a man's body and someone who thinks they are a duck trapped in a man's body?
    What is the fundamental difference between a man who wants a vagina, and a woman who wants bigger boobs or a straighter nose?
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    Re: Should getting a sex change be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    What is the fundamental difference between a man who wants a vagina, and a woman who wants bigger boobs or a straighter nose?
    Or a man who wants a larger penis. We need to outlaw those penis enlarging pumps too!

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    Re: Should getting a sex change be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Or a man who wants a larger penis. We need to outlaw those penis enlarging pumps too!
    You can't outlaw hands!!

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    Re: Should getting a sex change be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Panache View Post
    I wasn't asking if you would have it done to yourself. I was asking if you would chop your friends dick off if he asked you (or paid you) to. If your friend is unhappy having a dick, and he says he will give you $50 bucks to chop it off, is there any reason not to take his money and make him a happy man?
    For $50? Nope. For $1,000? Sure. After he signed a piece of paper promising not to sue me for anything or have me brought up on charges and had it notarized. The only reason that I could think of not to do it is that it would gross me out. I'm not to fond of seeing blood. Hence why I'm not a doctor.

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    I can only hope that the doctors willing to do that are as rare as the people wishing to have it done.
    You might not want to do any google searches about it then....
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    Re: Should getting a sex change be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Panache View Post
    Sure. I get that. And I never even hinted at a suggestion that it should be illegal for them to do so.

    The question of whether it was moral to do so arose in the thread however, so I am compelled to place such doctors in the ranks of loan sharks, politicians, gold digging tarts, televangelists, lawyers, and other unsavoury types that get their money in despicable and unscrupulous ways.
    Ah if you are just going at this from a morality perspective then there really is nothing to talk about. IMO it is not immoral to help make someone happy through a simple (the word "simple" is relative here) medical procedure that harms no one. I would imagine that the one getting the procedure would not call it harm. So when it comes to morality it is entirely up to someones POV.
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    Re: Should getting a sex change be legal?

    So what?
    So there.

    What is the fundamental difference between a man who wants a vagina, and a woman who wants bigger boobs or a straighter nose?
    The man's neurosis is extreme, and the woman's neurosis is only mild. The woman can change her mind and get the silicone removed later. Her issue is a matter of self image rather than self identity. Women get boob jobs because they think they are small-breasted women, not because they think they are really big-breasted women who are somehow in the wrong body.

    My opinion of elective plastic surgery is low to begin with, but I really can't fathom mangling people's genitalia for a living. In my opinion it takes a person of low moral character to find satisfaction in such a career.

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    Re: Should getting a sex change be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    No. I'm a Methodist. I wasn't looking to make this a religious topic. It was to illustrate how ridiculous it is to force our morals on others as long as they aren't harming anyone else.
    Why don't you head down to the religious forum, you can hold a prayer meetin' down there? Why do you need to hijack this thread?
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    Re: Should getting a sex change be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Why don't you head down to the religious forum, you can hold a prayer meetin' down there? Why do you need to hijack this thread?
    Says the guy who first brought religion into the thread...

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    Re: Should getting a sex change be legal?

    Ah if you are just going at this from a morality perspective then there really is nothing to talk about. IMO it is not immoral to help make someone happy through a simple (the word "simple" is relative here) medical procedure that harms no one. I would imagine that the one getting the procedure would not call it harm. So when it comes to morality it is entirely up to someones POV.
    Yeah, I am still kinda on the fence about it. Giving heroin to a middle school kid doesn't harm anyone either assuming that the kid doesn't consider themselves harmed. It still reeks of unscrupulousness to me though.

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