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    Re: Should Roman Polanski be punished for his crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Panache View Post
    She isn't 13 anymore. She is in her 40s and has asked for the case against him to be dismissed.

    I agree that the guy was a creep, and I didn't even like his movies all that well, but I don't see the benefit in seeking justice for the woman against her wishes.
    Case is over, it can't be dismissed. Do people not understand this? He plead guilty, it's over. There's no case to dismiss, there was merely sentencing left. He ran at that point. The plea deal was for time served. Fine, do it. But he now stands guilty of fleeing the country and should be brought up on those charges as well.
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    Re: Should Roman Polanski be punished for his crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Panache View Post
    She isn't 13 anymore. She is in her 40s and has asked for the case against him to be dismissed.

    I agree that the guy was a creep, and I didn't even like his movies all that well, but I don't see the benefit in seeking justice for the woman against her wishes.
    I agree 110%!

    IMHO - Considering the bulk of the evidence, the reports from the two court-appointed psychiatrists, the the wishes of the victim - sentence Polanski on the unlawful sexual intercourse charge to the 42 days he previously served and close the case.

    Insofar as the unlawful flight to avoid prosecution charge - sentence Polanski to whatever time he will have served in jail when the case comes up to trial, mark his passport "Invalid for Travel to the United States", and ship him back to France.

    France will have their beloved director back, and not only do we not have to worry about Roman Polanski returning to the United States, but we've avoided a celebrity media circus for Nancy Grace and Greta VanSusteren to exploit.
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    Re: Should Roman Polanski be punished for his crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    She was 13. It doesn't matter, he was a middle aged creep, she was 13. She testified to saying no. He plead guilty. That's it. End of story. He was supposed to be sentenced, he ran away to France. His **** caught up to him 30 years later. Deal with it.
    I can deal with it. Calm down.

    I hadn't read much, because most of what I find isn't fact oriented. I still have not read that she said no, I have read that she was posing topless and drinking at a party with him. From that, "drugged and raped" doesn't fit.

    Also, some 13 year-olds certainly look older than 13... not 25 or anything, but they can look 18 to a 40 year-old that is buzzed from drinking easily. Is he a creep? It sounds like it at this point.

    She testified after the fact. A lot of things can change from what she wanted to how others made her feel after the fact, and he plead guilty because of arbitrary laws regarding age of consent, not because of anything else. A lot of men get ****ed because of situations like this... even underage guys that are 16 and have sex with their 16 year old GF get accused of sex with a mino and convicted. **** happens all the time and to simply look at a few words 30 years later and say "deal with it" doesn't really cut it, I deal with facts and only ones that are ethical will stick.
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    Re: Should Roman Polanski be punished for his crime?

    He plead guilty. That's it. End of story.
    Great. The story ended years ago, so why waste time and resources on it now?

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    Re: Should Roman Polanski be punished for his crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Panache View Post
    Great. The story ended years ago, so why waste time and resources on it now?
    Are you daft? He ran away, we had a warrant issued to other countries. That warrant is still active, a country arrested him on that warrant. He never closed out the case. For the love of Christ, I think some people are too willing to defend a pedophile director. If it were some random dude, they wouldn't be getting all the attention/defense. And a random dude running from sentencing would have the same warrant, good for the same amount of time. Except there would be very little defense for the guy. He'd already have been brought back to the US to face his crimes.

    The court process involving proving a crime for this is already done. Please read carefully. All that was left was the sentencing. He ran. He has to come back for sentencing and now faces further fleeing charges.
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    Re: Should Roman Polanski be punished for his crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I can deal with it. Calm down.

    I hadn't read much, because most of what I find isn't fact oriented. I still have not read that she said no, I have read that she was posing topless and drinking at a party with him. From that, "drugged and raped" doesn't fit.

    Also, some 13 year-olds certainly look older than 13... not 25 or anything, but they can look 18 to a 40 year-old that is buzzed from drinking easily. Is he a creep? It sounds like it at this point.

    She testified after the fact. A lot of things can change from what she wanted to how others made her feel after the fact, and he plead guilty because of arbitrary laws regarding age of consent, not because of anything else. A lot of men get ****ed because of situations like this... even underage guys that are 16 and have sex with their 16 year old GF get accused of sex with a mino and convicted. **** happens all the time and to simply look at a few words 30 years later and say "deal with it" doesn't really cut it, I deal with facts and only ones that are ethical will stick.
    There are plenty of things for which we've gone overboard on. I'm the first to say that the current laws are well too stringent. That wasn't true in the 70's, things were ridiculously lenient. There's no excuse, this isn't a 16 year old with a 14 year old. This was some dude in his, what, late 40's and a 13 year old. If you can't see an ethical problem with some 40 some year old perv ****ing a drugged up 13 year old girl who says no then you're messed up in the head.
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    Re: Should Roman Polanski be punished for his crime?

    what is the problem with this case,the poeple who is in charge should be held to acount for not bringing this man to justice a long time ago,i cant understand why this happend,and now the US department of Justice after more or less 30 years desides to call him in,charge them who upholds the law
    would that not be better and thro them in sing sing for good,now thats what i call justice.

    mikeey

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    Re: Should Roman Polanski be punished for his crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeey View Post
    what is the problem with this case,the poeple who is in charge should be held to acount for not bringing this man to justice a long time ago,i cant understand why this happend,and now the US department of Justice after more or less 30 years desides to call him in,charge them who upholds the law
    would that not be better and thro them in sing sing for good,now thats what i call justice.

    mikeey
    The period is not your enemy. Proper punctuation and spelling go a long way into making an argument.

    The reason why it took so long was because he ran to France and France refused to extradite him. The US heard that Polanski would be at this event and it was in a country that would extradite him to the US. Thus they got in contract with law enforcement and had him arrested, and now awaits extradition in jail.
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    Re: Should Roman Polanski be punished for his crime?

    Are you daft? He ran away, we had a warrant issued to other countries. That warrant is still active, a country arrested him on that warrant. He never closed out the case.
    See, that sounds like a lot of work and a lot of wasted money that could have been better spent seeking justice for someone who actually wanted justice, or protecting someone who actually needed protecting.

    For the love of Christ, I think some people are too willing to defend a pedophile director.
    I'm not defending him. I've already said I think he's a guilty creep. I just don't think he's worth wasting time or money on.

    If it were some random dude, they wouldn't be getting all the attention/defense.
    If the random dude got a thread on DP and his victim didn't want him sent to jail, I would still see no reason for tax dollars to support his sorry a$$.

    And a random dude running from sentencing would have the same warrant, good for the same amount of time. Except there would be very little defense for the guy.
    If it was a random dude running from sentencing whose victim had requested that he be let go, I think you would still find plenty of people who wanted to respect the wishes of the victim.

    He'd already have been brought back to the US to face his crimes.
    I never said that time and money hadn't already been wasted.

    The court process involving proving a crime for this is already done. Please read carefully. All that was left was the sentencing. He ran. He has to come back for sentencing and now faces further fleeing charges.
    Please read carefully yourself. I didn't say the court process wasn't done. I didn't say that there was anything left but sentencing, I didn't say he didn't run, and I didn't say he wasn't facing further fleeing charges. Why do you keep addressing points I didn't make?

    I said its a waste of time and resources.

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    Re: Should Roman Polanski be punished for his crime?

    Akari sorry about my english,but when the US wants anyone they will get them,so i dont believe that in what u say,even in france.

    all the best m8.

    mikeey

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