Roman Polanski should be raped by a very very old man.
"The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis."
By the way, do you even comprehend the term "partisan"? Or do you just find it convenient to abuse the term in a desperate effort to avoid substance?
Nothing I have stated on this thread is "partisan" unless in your desperation to avoid my question about who you voted for is now considered to be "partisan." In fact, my question is more related to your "state of mind" than it is some farcical notions about what you perceive as "partisan."
The irony of bringing Dragondad into this conversation is also lost on you, however, if you continue to remain confused about what would be a fine example of rabid hyper partisanship, dragondad defines the term; fascinating that your selective outrage is merely directed towards me and you would reference him here.
Main Entry: partisan !p@r-tu-zun!p@r-tu-un
Pronunciation: \ ˈpär-tə-zən, -sən, -ˌzan, chiefly British ˌpär-tə-ˈzan \
Etymology: Middle French partisan, from north Italian dial. partiźan, from part part, party, from Latin part-, pars part
1. 1a firm adherent to a party, faction, cause, or person especially one exhibiting blind, prejudiced, and unreasoning allegiance
Now back to my question; did you vote for Obama; yes or no?
You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo
Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
Nowhere did I say that Polanski was "justified" (once again your mischaracterizations and distortion)
Nowhere did I say that the actions of the judge were "illegal" (once again your mischaracterizations and distortion)
Nowhere did I say that having sex with a minor is "mundane" (Once again your mischaracterizations and distortion).
However, as typical of many debates, several people have the facts wrong. If this were a case about a pedaphile who lured a 13 year old into his house raped her and then fled to avoid punishment, they might have a point. That, however is a mischaracterization of the facts.
I am not condoning Polanski's underlying actions or his fleeing the country. However, one cannot pick and choose what parts of the circumstances you want to support your arguments and fail to address the others.
The bottom line is that the DA did not find the story of the girl and her mother credible. Rightfully so, because she later recanted major parts of it.
The DA understood the lack of credibility as well as other weaknesses in their case which is why the case settled for what it did.
The actions of the judge failed to take into account the weakness of the DA's case. Responding to personal vendetta or political pressure or whatever, the judge took the plea and then reneged on the deal. Yes...a judge can refuse to take a deal, however, usually where this is done it is because of a person's rap sheet or because of additional information that the judge becomes aware of. A judge does not have the same information that the DA/Defense have regarding the facts of the case.
I hate to say it, but if I were Polanski, I would have fled as well.
That said...I have never said that Polanski should not be punished. He should be punished in accord with the original deal. As I stated before there are two interests which a criminal penalty are intended to serve....rehabilitation and retribution. The fact that Polanski has gone 30 years crime free would support a belief that rehabilitation has already been served. What about retribution. The original plea was for a time served sentence. The plea was based on the strength of the case and information known to the DA. Why should retribution carry a higher price than that which justice demands?
Women (Nasty or otherwise) are going to be the reason that Donald Trump is NEVER President!
I don't understand the focus on the "effect" on the victim. Nothing I've seen indicates that she would have to testify or be involved at all.
We can completely ignore the actual rape and the penalties that would have resulted from that and instead remember that the guy fled the country to avoid serving a sentence. He should be extradited, prosecuted, and convicted for that alone.
People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.