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Thread: Best Representation of American Goverment (by party)

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    Re: Best Representation of American Goverment (by party)

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    Re: Best Representation of American Goverment (by party)

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    So you do not think that a $1.6 trillion deficit,
    Nope. In fact, I wish it was higher. Deficit spending is absolutely appropriate for a severe recession. Now, if we continue to run a huge deficit once the economy recovers, I will be the first to agree with you that it's irresponsible.

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    a $12 trillion national debt,
    Only part of that is Obama's doing; the national debt was there before Obama was president and will still be there when he is gone. Since this is Obama's first year, AT MOST you can attribute the current deficit to Obama...not the entire national debt. And honestly you can't even attribute ALL of the current deficit to him, since a lot of that spending was signed by George Bush.

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    average monthly job losses of 200,000 for 12 months in excess of 200,000, 12 months of negative GDP, an unemployment rate of nearly 10% and foreclosures continuing at a high rate and more to come as being a disaster?
    The president has very little control over the current state of the economy. Besides, the economy sucked when Obama took office.
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    Re: Best Representation of American Goverment (by party)

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Nope. In fact, I wish it was higher. Deficit spending is absolutely appropriate for a severe recession.
    But wait a moment...

    The president has very little control over the current state of the economy.
    But if deficit spending is good for the economy, doesn't that imply doing so exercises control over it?

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    Re: Best Representation of American Goverment (by party)

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    It varies from one year to another, depending on the most pressing issues. Right now I think the best arrangement is Dem president / Dem Congress.
    I can't see how anyone but a hyperpartisan would want a single party to run amok, unchecked.

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    Re: Best Representation of American Goverment (by party)

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    But wait a moment...



    But if deficit spending is good for the economy, doesn't that imply doing so exercises control over it?
    What I meant was that the president can't control the ups and downs of the economy. I don't blame George Bush for the crash last September, because it was caused by forces that have little to do with government policy. And to the small extent that government policies were responsible, it was nearly impossible to predict in advance.

    However, I do think that public policy can help ease the pains of a severe recession, or slow down an economy that's overheating. The government has two very effective tools at its disposal: The interest rate, and the federal deficit. Keeping the interest rate low helps expand the money supply. But now that the interest rate is effectively zero (due to the severity of the recession), the government has relied more on deficit spending. This is effective as well, although less so than interest rate cuts. When taxes are low and spending is high (i.e. a high deficit), businesses have more cash at their disposal. This will ease the recession pains.
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    Re: Best Representation of American Goverment (by party)

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    I can't see how anyone but a hyperpartisan would want a single party to run amok, unchecked.
    Like I said, that isn't my prescription for an effective government for all-time. That is what I think works the best in 2009, to deal with the problems I think are most important: Health care and the recession.
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    Re: Best Representation of American Goverment (by party)

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    So far the only combination that has resulted in the BEST results has been Democrat President with a Republican Congress.

    What is YOUR opinion of the ONLY choice?
    So, you think that every combination prior to the rise of the singular party state was bad?

    Let's seem the Republican party started in 1854. Huh. 1854-1775 = 79 years of combinations you deem irrelevant.

    You already know my opinion of the single poll option. You just don't like the fact that I'm not a hyperactive partisan hack.
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    Re: Best Representation of American Goverment (by party)

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Most of which cannot be blamed, at least entirely, on Obama. If these problems are still around in 3 years, you will be right, till then, it is too early to tell.
    But Redress, it's always easier to pretend that whatever bad things that happen are the fault of other party! Did we see TD leveling the same accusations against the GOP White House and GOP dominated Congress?

    No. And there's a reason for that.

    How any sane, rational person can defend deficit spending during boom years yet criticize deficit spending during recession is beyond comprehension, which of course suggests such a person is not sane nor rational.
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    Re: Best Representation of American Goverment (by party)

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Hey, homie-g, you've been awfully quiet lately! Good to see you.
    Good to see you as well my dear. I am not on the forum as much lately. I need to get back, but it seemed there was a lull in any good topics there for awhile. I have also been writing free-lance for a local paper on international issues. Anyway, I should be around more and look forward to seeing you playa!

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    Re: Best Representation of American Goverment (by party)

    Due to the realities of modern American political life, none of the above. No matter who is in charge, they all have their own personal agenda that they pursue above and beyond their "responsibility" to represent the people.

    Most of them treat it more like a vague suggestion.
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