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Who Would You Compare Obama To?

Who Would You Compare Oboma To?

  • Carter

    Votes: 12 25.0%

  • Nixon

    Votes: 1 2.1%

  • FDR

    Votes: 5 10.4%

  • Clinton

    Votes: 5 10.4%

  • JFK

    Votes: 4 8.3%

  • Ford

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 7 14.6%

  • He Is In A Group All His Own

    Votes: 14 29.2%
  • Total voters
    48
Obama is very much like Carter in a lot of ways, but I think among the most significant is that he, like Carter, sees his role as shepherding the world into a post-American era.
 
Harshaw said:
Obama is very much like Carter in a lot of ways, but I think among the most significant is that he, like Carter, sees his role as shepherding the world into a post-American era.
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what does the post american era mean
 
75Greeno said:
what does the post american era mean
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Probably that America will eventually no longer be the top-dog nation with the biggest and best of everything, guarding the world from obstacles to the American dream.
 
He reminds me of two people.

Carter..reasons have already been stated in this thread.

and

Wiley E. Coyote. No matter how hard he is trying he keeps missing the mark of what is actually needed in this country.

This is of course my own opinion.
 
MyOwnDrum said:
I have never had any child of mine aborted, have never been to an abortion clinic, nor been involved in anyway with abortion.
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But you have a strong opinion on the subject. Thus, your belief that women who have strong opinions on abortion (for or against) must have had an abortion themselves, makes absolutely no goddamn sense. Or does that standard only apply to women? Are you allowed to have a strong opinion specifically because you're male?

I'm still waiting for you to present some evidence that Hillary Clinton or Michelle Obama had an abortion.

MyOwnDrum said:
I do find it interesting that in my many years on the internet and in life, I've never had any pro-choice person 'come out' regarding their own personal abortion. People will 'come out' publicly about homosexuality even though a certain percentage of the population will disapprove of them and condemn them.

But think of it, how many abortions are there a year in the U.S.? According to this website that's 1.37 Million per year currently.

Where are all these women? That's a lot of women. There's a good chance that it's your friend or neighbor. But, they're mostly hiding in the closet. No one speak openly about it, do they? That's because it is a horrible truth to have had an abortion. It's not the same as having had gay sex, is it? It really is something to hide and be ashamed of.
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There's nothing inherently wrong or immoral about being interested in some weird fetish porn either. That doesn't mean people won't be embarrassed by it, and will readily tell you all about it. Some things are just private.

Are you now suggesting that Michelle Obama and Hillary Clinton had abortions because they have never admitted it? :lol:
 
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Kandahar said:
But you have a strong opinion on the subject. Thus, your belief that women who have strong opinions on abortion (for or against) must have had an abortion themselves, makes absolutely no goddamn sense. Or does that standard only apply to women? Are you allowed to have a strong opinion specifically because you're male?

I'm still waiting for you to present some evidence that Hillary Clinton or Michelle Obama had an abortion.



There's nothing inherently wrong or immoral about being interested in some weird fetish porn either. That doesn't mean people won't be embarrassed by it, and will readily tell you all about it. Some things are just private.

Are you now suggesting that Michelle Obama and Hillary Clinton had abortions because they have never admitted it? :lol:
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I like you, and we probably agree on a lot of things, but I don't think we'll convince each other on this particular topic. :)
 
Hmm.. ok.. over 40 percent of all women by 45 have had abortions. Aren't black women more likely than whites to have an abortion? Perhaps Michelle is therefore over 50 percent likely to have had one.

Good odds.. but still no evidence to prove it. And I dont see how its relavant.
 
KillerAngel said:
Hmm.. ok.. over 40 percent of all women by 45 have had abortions. Aren't black women more likely than whites to have an abortion? Perhaps Michelle is therefore over 50 percent likely to have had one.

Good odds.. but still no evidence to prove it. And I dont see how its relavant.
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We got off on a tangent. Maybe I'll start an opinion poll on the subject.
 
75Greeno said:
I would say Carter
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I chose in a realm of his own as I predict he will make Carter look like a fiscal competent manager by the time his first term ends. I also predict it will indeed be a one term Presidency much like Carters.
 
Redress said:
If I had to compare him to another president, it would have to be Clinton. Both with similar political goals, both with strong wives, both pushing to reform health care.
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...and as a result of this misguided push for healthcare, lost the Congress to the opposition party?

You may have a good analogy here; I think that unlike Clinton and more like Carter, he will be a one term President.
 
Truth Detector said:
I chose in a realm of his own as I predict he will make Carter look like a fiscal competent manager by the time his first term ends. I also predict it will indeed be a one term Presidency much like Carters.
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Yeah but didn't you predict that:

1. McCain would beat Obama?
2. Norm Coleman would beat Al Franken?
3. We'd finally have proof that the Earth is actually flat?:lol:
 
I doubt Michelle Obama had an abortion mainly because she seems smart enough to have always made birth control was involved. Yes BC isn't always effective, but it works enough you don't reasonably have to worry. Especially if you use multiple methods (i.e. condoms and the pill).
 
As for which president I would compare Obama to, I would say JFK. Both are young handsome men from liberal states who won by beating a much more experienced Republican. Both were very successful in getting youth interested in politics. Both tried to lever their personal charisma into political victory, and were known for their cool demeanor. Now the state of the country when they took office were very different- JFK taking office as America was starting to turn towards an Inward-Looking age and BHO taking office as America was grabbed and thrown into an Outward-Looking age, but as for personalities they seem similar.
 
Devil505 said:
Yeah but didn't you predict that:

1. McCain would beat Obama?
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Show me where I predicted that? I did bet that a Republican would win the Whitehouse long before ANY candidates for President were selected.

I predicted that based on the mistaken logic that the American people felt that a one party rule did not work for them and did not believe that they would elect a Democrat with a majority Democrat Congress.

Devil505 said:
Yeah but didn't you predict that:

2. Norm Coleman would beat Al Franken?
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Once again you would be wrong, but at least you are consistent.

I never predicted any outcome here other than I was rooting for Franken to win because he would fit right in with the lunatics currently running our Government. I think the people of Minnesota deserve what they vote for.


Devil505 said:
Yeah but didn't you predict that:

3. We'd finally have proof that the Earth is actually flat?:lol:
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And alas, all your rants beg this question; do you ever have a point other than wearing your obvious hyper partisan BS on your sleeves? :2wave:
 
the makeout hobo said:
As for which president I would compare Obama to, I would say JFK. Both are young handsome men from liberal states who won by beating a much more experienced Republican. Both were very successful in getting youth interested in politics. Both tried to lever their personal charisma into political victory, and were known for their cool demeanor. Now the state of the country when they took office were very different- JFK taking office as America was starting to turn towards an Inward-Looking age and BHO taking office as America was grabbed and thrown into an Outward-Looking age, but as for personalities they seem similar.
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JFKs foolish naiveté' resulted in the Bay of Pigs fiasco, almost got us into a nuclear confrontation with the Soviet Union and last, but never least, got us involved in Vietnam.

Let us hope and pray Obama will not do the same. Fortunately we do not have super powers to contend with as we do lunatics in wealthy ME nations with more money than brains.

JFK was also at least a Conservative; something Obama cannot be accused of by any stretch and told the citizens “ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country.” In Obamaland, it is “I the messiah know best what is good for the country and only I can lead us to the land of welfare, illegal immigration, vast debt, vast unemployment, vast deficits and negative GDP; but at least I cared!”

:cool:
 
Ilham Anas, most definitely!

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Truth Detector said:
Show me where I predicted that?
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My post was a bit tongue in cheek in re specific predictions. (the flat earth one should have been a hint)
My point was that it is way to early in Obama's Presidency to compare him to any other President. He took office facing some dire emergencies that have consumed much of his attention to this point, & he has not had enough "Breathing Space" to really see what his proffered priorities will be & how he will steer his Presidency.
 
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He seems like a more restrained version of FDR.
 
Devil505 said:
My post was a bit tongue in cheek in re specific predictions. (the flat earth one should have been a hint)
My point was that it is way to early in Obama's Presidency to compare him to any other President. He took office facing some dire emergencies that have consumed much of his attention to this point, & he has not had enough "Breathing Space" to really see what his proffered priorities will be & how he will steer his Presidency.
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Tongue in cheek point taken. However, suggesting that the nine months we have just witnessed is not sufficient to point out the deficiencies of this Administration requires the willing suspension of disbelief; IN MY opinion of course!

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Truth Detector said:
Tongue in cheek point taken. However, suggesting that the nine months we have just witnessed is not sufficient to point out the deficiencies of this Administration requires the willing suspension of disbelief; IN MY opinion of course!

:2wave:
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If these were normal times I might agree with you to a point. But these are not normal times & Obama has been so focused on keeping us out of another great depression & trying to figure out how to extricate us from 2 quagmires we call wars, I don't think it fair yet to give him a final grade.
 
Truth Detector said:
JFKs foolish naiveté' resulted in the Bay of Pigs fiasco, almost got us into a nuclear confrontation with the Soviet Union and last, but never least, got us involved in Vietnam.

Let us hope and pray Obama will not do the same. Fortunately we do not have super powers to contend with as we do lunatics in wealthy ME nations with more money than brains.

JFK was also at least a Conservative; something Obama cannot be accused of by any stretch and told the citizens “ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country.” In Obamaland, it is “I the messiah know best what is good for the country and only I can lead us to the land of welfare, illegal immigration, vast debt, vast unemployment, vast deficits and negative GDP; but at least I cared!”

:cool:
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What makes you think JFK was a conservative? I'd love to see your revisionist history here.
 
Jim Jones. ;)

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